check out my saiga 12

[Splinter]

There is a PM button for things like this...

Umm..... nice S12 but is that stock permanently pinned?

A collapsible stock AND pistol grip is a no go in CA.

Just as very important FYI:


on CA Penal Code 12276.1 regarding semi-auto shotguns it states:
(a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.


I'm sure the pics were taken out of state of course....

And just noticed that.... is it a 20 round magazine?

...oh wait is this a joke I didn't get?

[Mitch]

Just picked up the last one from Riflegear:

[Charles4400]

Nice Mitch I saw that one hanging on the wall a few weeks ago! Nice score!

Do you know if they are able to install their AK Raddlock on that, or only the cage for the bb?

I emailed them about that but they never got back to me....

[BVamp]

the surefire 12 round mags have 4 exposed ribs. the ten rounders have 3 exposed ribs, the eights have 2 exposed, 5 has one exposed, 2 round, none exposed. This was done in an effort to make one mould for all the different size mags at Surefire.

12 round:

8 round:

2 round:

images courtesy of saiga-12.com E-store. (http://www.saiga-12.com/products.asp)

[Mitch]

Do you know if they are able to install their AK Raddlock on that, or only the cage for the bb?

It looks like the cage is on there. But it's held on by a single button head cap screw, so it can probably be replaced with something else easy enough.

[for2nato]

According to the flowchart (link at the top of every forum page) non-detachable semi-auto shotguns are not limited in capacity. Detachable magazines are evil and will cause you to go on shooting sprees.

i love evil shooting sprees!!!!!






oh wait did i say shooting? i ment shopping :-(

[JeffM]

Hey JeffM are you 100% sure about the fixed semi-auto shotgun magzine not having a limit? I would love if that were the case, but is that 100% confirmed? (I would love to get a drum legally...I know revolving cylinders are out of the question but thought the limit of 10 was the reason why we don't see more s12 drums in CA.

I'm sure. But I am not a lawyer. Read the law yourself or speak with your legal council.

Drums are not revolving or rotating cylinders.

LEO can buy large capacity magazines.

Anyone can buy large capacity magazines from an armored transport company.

^two ways off the top of my head for people in CA to own S12 large capacity magazines or drums.

[Midtown Gunner]

It seems to me that one of the advantages of the Saiga is the quick mag change, so I'm not certain why a fixed mag with more capacity would even be desirable.

[djleisure]

It seems to me that one of the advantages of the Saiga is the quick mag change, so I'm not certain why a fixed mag with more capacity would even be desirable.

It is a semi-auto shotgun, it can NOT have a detachable magazine (in CA), whether you like it or not. It's not a choice.

[OCya]

i gotta wait till december for mine. seems like a lotta oc guys got em. we should all meet up and go blastin.

[Midtown Gunner]

It is a semi-auto shotgun, it can NOT have a detachable magazine (in CA), whether you like it or not.

Then how is it reloaded?

[djleisure]

Then how is it reloaded?

Well, it is technically detachable, but you need a tool (bullet tip, etc.) to work the maglock. It is just the terminology used. When you install a maglock on this semi-auto shotgun it makes it so it does not have the "capacity to accept a detachable magazine." Detachable, in this definition, means something removable without the use of a tool. Confusing enough?

[cj cake]

Well, it is technically attachable, and you need a tool (bullet tip, etc.) to work the maglock. It is just the terminology used. When you install a maglock on this semi-auto shotgun it makes it so it does not have the "capacity to accept a detachable magazine." Detachable, in this definition, means something removable without the use of a tool. Confusing enough?

Fixed it for you.

[djleisure]

Fixed it for you.

Yep, that sounds much better (and to the letter of the law) thanks!