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  • wilit
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2005
    • 5209

    Why is .410 ammo so expensive?

    I just bought a Mossberg 500E for shooting trap, and I finally got to shoot it today. Man, it's a ton of fun. A real challenge. However, ammo is crazy expensive. WTF? One 25 round box of 3" #7 was $14 at Walmart while a 100 round box of 12ga was $20. Considering the popularity of the .410, I can't believe ammo is so expensive for it. Yikes.
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    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20815

    economies of scale

    its not that 410 is expensive its just that 12 ga is cheap

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    • #3
      aippi
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 2302

      It all comes down to production runs. when they set up for a run of any item the set up time is factored into the cost of the item. Also, while they are making the .410, 28ga, 16, and 20ga ammo they are not making the 12 which is their best seller so the bean counters even factor this time in. This is why items for guages other then 12 cost more.
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      • #4
        .22guy
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2006
        • 5863

        Reload for .410, I guess.

        That's the only way I would shoot one, if I ever buy one.
        Originally posted by sholling
        Someone else's lack of foresight and planning is no reason for you to take less than the current market value despite all of the wailing and crying for 2nd Amendment socialism and welfare pricing.

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        • #5
          mjsweims
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 807

          Rio 3" at Natchez is 7.68/box
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          • #6
            wilit
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2005
            • 5209

            Originally posted by .22guy
            Reload for .410, I guess.
            I've certainly added reloading to the list of possibilities.

            Originally posted by mjsweims
            Rio 3" at Natchez is 7.68/box
            Thanks for the heads up. That's a great price.
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            • #7
              clockwork
              Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 331

              100rd 12ga packs are also ~$20 at Wally world...
              Originally posted by ysr_racer
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              take 'em for a test drive, then buy the one that feels best.

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              • #8
                jphaxx
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 306

                you should reload your .410! it uses soo little shot and soo little powder that it comes very economical to reload. Check this out and you can calculate your savings.



                When I just searched for the component prices and punched some info in there, I came out with $2.69 per box of 25 rounds

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                • #9
                  ERdept
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 4698

                  .410 is less used.

                  12 gauge is everywhere, so they can buy it in bulk and thus it's cheap.

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                  • #10
                    DVSmith
                    Cantankerous old coot
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3702

                    Shoot 12G, you will hit your target more often AND it's cheaper!

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                    • #11
                      ERdept
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 4698

                      Originally posted by DVSmith
                      Shoot 12G, you will hit your target more often AND it's cheaper!
                      Yup.

                      don't know why anyone uses .410 unless it's for the challenge.

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                      • #12
                        sargenv
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4620

                        Let me be the first to warn you that reloading for 410 is not as easy as loading 12 or 20 gauge. I bought a press thinking "How hard could it be?" and sold the press about a year later in frustration. You'd think they would be cheaper due to less materials but it's about supply and demand.. and did I mention how difficult it is to load?

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                        • #13
                          wilit
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 5209

                          Originally posted by ERdept
                          Yup.

                          don't know why anyone uses .410 unless it's for the challenge.
                          I got the .410 because I began keeping track of how well I did with the 12ga by how many I missed rather than hit.

                          Shooting doubles with a .410 is definitely a challenge.

                          Originally posted by sargenv
                          Let me be the first to warn you that reloading for 410 is not as easy as loading 12 or 20 gauge. I bought a press thinking "How hard could it be?" and sold the press about a year later in frustration. You'd think they would be cheaper due to less materials but it's about supply and demand.. and did I mention how difficult it is to load?
                          Care to share some of the difficulties you encountered? I certainly don't want to invest the money in a reloader only to run into the same frustrations.
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                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
                          "You have to be willing to swing your nuts like a deadblow hammer to put these jackasses in their place." - AJAX22
                          "The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry." - William F Buckley Jr.
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                          • #14
                            Hayashi Killian
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 617

                            All types of shotgun ammo except 12ga are more 'rare' since fewer users use them. 12ga is the 'universal' round since the most widely sold shotguns use them. Only a few specialty shotguns use 20ga, even fewer use 16 or 28, and I've only heard of a few models that use .410. They may have been more popular at one point, but now, 12ga rules the roost.
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                            • #15
                              SLO_Ryan
                              Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 296

                              Originally posted by Hayashi Killian
                              Only a few specialty shotguns use 20ga
                              Not sure I agree with this. There are many many models that use 20 ga. Sure, not as many as 12ga, but there are still tons to choose from.

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