Need some help with Skeet !!!

[W.R.Buchanan]

Actually I need a lot of help. I have been sucking so bad (Single digits!) at this game with my new gun I am seeking a school I can go to to learn this game from the bottom up and when I say bottom I mean," I don't know which end of the bullet the gun comes out of."

Today I shot a 9 and an 8 and didn't want to go on as it was a waste of ammo.

Is there such a thing as a beginners Skeet School at maybe Oak Tree or somewhere like that in Northern LA that I could drive to from Ojai and not have to leave at 3AM to get there ?

I read the thread on the SoCal Skeet Clinic then found out the guy giving it had passed away.

Is there something within driving distance <75 miles that could get me actually hitting targets?

I have read books on this and know where to put my feet, but shots that I think should be good are coming up lost. Shots I have made consistently with my .410 I am missing with the 12GA, and I don't know if it is the gun or me.? I know this new gun doesn't swing as fast as the .410 does but after 300 rounds I'd think I was getting used to it?

Right now I have Zero confidence because I can easily miss every shot on the field and that includes Low 7 which I could get every time with my .410. It's almost like there is no shot in most of my shells.

Very frustrating. I need some help here!

Randy

[hermosabeach]

Randy

Since you shoot defensive shotgun, you might do the same thing I do

Look at the sights
Press the trigger
Possible slow or stop swing when you fire


Oak tree you to have classes. I don't know if they still offer them

If you can pick up a case of Winchester tracker Ammo.
It lets you watch the shot column in flight - o flame - ca legal


If you have a friend film from behind you, you can see your swing and where the shot goes... good to help diagnose some of what needs to be worked on.

[hermosabeach]

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Shotshell/AA-TrAAcker

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UgwDmJVbzZY

Where is YSR

[k1dude]

Have you patterned your shotgun with the ammo you're using?

[BOBGBA]

Have you patterned your shotgun with the ammo you're using?

Randy -

Couldn't hurt to do this to make sure there's no holes in your pattern and that POI is where you expect it. It's possible that the POI is different than what you are used to.

Additionally - I think you probably know all this.

Look Point:
If your eye's haven't changed since you were smoking them with the 410, then your look point should be the same.

Hold Point:
May be ok, but if you think you aren't getting on them fast enough, you may want to move your hold point farther out.

Lead:
Odds are that you aren't putting enough lead on them.
If you can have someone stand behind you, they should be able to tell you if you are in front of or behind the target.

Figuring it out:
If you're shooting at Ojai, can you have someone pull for you once everyone else is done?
If so, stay at Station 1 and just shoot low house.
Shoot as many as it takes for you to get that shot down.
Shoot a whole box there if you have to.

Once you've figured out the lead it takes, shoot the high house, get that shot figured out, then move on and shoot the next station.

I'd figure it out 1 station at a time.

Once you've got a couple of stations figured out, I would expect the rest to get a little easier.

[ceh383]

HERE is a cheat sheet that might help.

[newbutold]

Saw a guy miss a couple today.....he didn't pull the trigger

[Bakerloo]

Get the Todd Bender video. Watch it before you go out. Focus on one of his points every outing.

[ysr_racer]

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammu...ll/AA-TrAAcker

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UgwDmJVbzZY

Where is YSR

Op, take the beads off your shotgun, and look at the target.

Wait, first have your eye dominance checked, then your stance, then your mount, then take the beads off.

[W.R.Buchanan]

Saw a guy miss a couple today.....he didn't pull the trigger

Today I would have been better off not pulling the trigger and just staying in bed!

Hi 1 I missed both the first one and the option, got the low house but missed both on the double. 1 for 5 shots.
2 HI missed got 2 lo and missed the double.
3 missed the hi and got the low.
4 missed both
5 missed both
And so On til 7 where I got 3/4
Missed both on 8 which usually I can get with the .410.

I have to build a Patterning Board as the one at the Range is useless. I am running Skeet chokes in both barrels but am wondering if the back Boring of the barrel is tightening the patterns like it does on Vang Comped Barrels. (IE: similar to how Jug Choking works)

I will figure this out but I definitely need help getting the basics in and getting all the shots figured out. Typically what happens with me is a few successes allows me to get a good idea of the successful sight picture for any given shot. Once that is recorded in my brain I can usually duplicate it with decent regularity. That isn't happening right now.

I'll call Oak Tree tomorrow and see if they have someone who can help.

Randy

[whutsup40]

If you look at the bead your missing the target!

[hermosabeach]

Patterning board - piece of cardboard - easy

I recut my forcing cone. Lengthened it about 2" in a mossberg pump

It tightened the pattern with an 18" by about 2" at 10 yards.

What did you have done to your skeet gun?
Are both barrels the same if shooting a double or O/U?

Or is one tighter like is common in hunting / field guns

[ceh383]

I am running Skeet chokes in both barrels but am wondering if the back Boring of the barrel is tightening the patterns like it does on Vang Comped Barrels.

Measure them! A Skeet choke will be .005" constriction.

[W.R.Buchanan]

ceh: Thanks for the Cheat Sheet, I just printed it out, and I'll use it at the next practice on Thursday. We have Skeet Practice every Thursday and I can shoot whatever targets I want.

I also need to practice swinging the gun with my upper body instead of lower.

This might actually help!.

Thanks Randy

[W.R.Buchanan]

Choke Tubes are both Skeet .735. Barrels are both .740 Back Bored from the factory. The Browning IC thue that came with the gun is .735 also?

With .005 of constriction it may be patterning the same as if it was a .725 Skeet tube in a .730 barrel. I'll find out by patterning it. I did shoot it at some Steel targets at our range and it appeared to shoot both barrels to the point of aim. However there was no way to see what the pattern actually looked like.

Keep in mind the gun is a new Citori CXS which should be a 50/50 Skeet gun. I am running Carlson's choke tubes, as the gun only came with Browning IC, Mod, and Full chokes, However that may be the problem because It might be patterning really tight which would mean I have to be dead on to make the hits. I am about 50/50 on low 7 which is the easiest shot on the range. I usually 9/10 with my .410 on that shot.

Randy