Browning Citori CXS 32 for me!

[md2020]

NO...hit the pattern board to see if you NEED the adjustable option.

Take your CZ with you to see the differences

Are you trying to save me money or something?

I have no experience doing that...

And neither do you!

(good advice... I'll take it)

[W.R.Buchanan]

I am shooting at the patterning board to see where the gun shoots in relation to the POA.

The whole purpose of getting this gun was get a 50/50 gun as opposed to my XT which was a 70/30 trap gun. Trap guns are set up yo shoot high so the pattern builds in a little lead as Trap Targets are always rising. (unless you wait too long to shoot them.)

With a spot on the target and holding dead on that spot, with my cheek weld in place and the two beads lined up, what I want to see is the pattern as a 30" circle around the dot on the target.

My gun came with an adjustable comb but the gun fits me perfect with the comb all the way down. I really didn't want the adjustable comb, the gun just came with it.

Browning guns all fit me right out of the box. That why I like Browning guns.

I have 2 A5's of 1963 and 64 vintage as well as my Citori Sporting Clays Edition .410. All of them fit me the same way.

This gun has a LOP that is a little long at 14 1/2" with the trigger all the way back. I would prefer about 1/2" shorter but will live with it for the time being and see if I get used to it.

Randy.

[ceh383]

Are you trying to save me money or something?

I have no experience doing that...

And neither do you!

(good advice... I'll take it)

I know how to save money, I bought the expensive guns used and I drive a Hyundai

I am shooting at the patterning board to see where the gun shoots in relation to the POA.

The whole purpose of getting this gun was get a 50/50 gun as opposed to my XT which was a 70/30 trap gun. Trap guns are set up yo shoot high so the pattern builds in a little lead as Trap Targets are always rising. (unless you wait too long to shoot them.)

With a spot on the target and holding dead on that spot, with my cheek weld in place and the two beads lined up, what I want to see is the pattern as a 30" circle around the dot on the target.

My gun came with an adjustable comb but the gun fits me perfect with the comb all the way down. I really didn't want the adjustable comb, the gun just came with it.

Browning guns all fit me right out of the box. That why I like Browning guns.

I have 2 A5's of 1963 and 64 vintage as well as my Citori Sporting Clays Edition .410. All of them fit me the same way.

This gun has a LOP that is a little long at 14 1/2" with the trigger all the way back. I would prefer about 1/2" shorter but will live with it for the time being and see if I get used to it.

Randy.

LOP changes where your cheek hits the comb. Unless you have a parallel comb this will slightly change how the beads line up. I've always liked a gun that shoots slightly high, about 60/40. This helps a little on rising targets and doesn't hinder me on dropping and crossing targets. It's all personal preference, there is no hard rule on how it must be.

My Zoli has a 14-3/8" LOP and my Perazzi has a 14-3/4" LOP. I shot my best score with the Zoli, but in general, I shoot the Perazzi better...So which is the right LOP? At the level we are at I don't think it makes that much difference.

Clay shooting is a mental game, you must have confidence in your equipment.

I'll use last weeks shoot as an example of the mental game.

I was shooting pretty well, on track for perhaps my best score ever. Then with 6 stations to go a guy from the squad behind us told me my gun didn't fit me properly and I should look into a custom stock. And well, it all went down hill from there. I had my worst 3 stations after that, the wheels fell off the cart. I was thinking about gun mount more than the target. It's all mental

[W.R.Buchanan]

This book I'm getting is supposed to discuss the mental portion of shooting clays and there is a pre shot mind prep that you have to get in that blocks all the bad stuff out before you call Pull.

I'm not going to make any changes to the gun for a while and only if it really shows a need. I am not one to let a gun not work for me, but I also don't fly off the handle and make changes before I know exactly what needs to happen and why.

Randy

[ceh383]

Pre-shot routine: Watch targets, determine look, hold and break points. Visualize move to accomplish it.

Mental part: Empty the mind and allow the pre-shot routine to take over without thought. But more than that, how do you adjust when your pre-shot thinking isn't working? These are, to me, two different things.

Emptying the mind is difficult at best. Little things, that shouldn't, always seem to creep in and mess up the best of plans.

Remember: Even the best laid plans never survive first contact with the enemy

[jon94520]

Nice Citori.
I still use my dads from time to time, built in 1985.

You old guys and your carts though. I still sling over my Versamax and hump my shells in a bag.

[Bakerloo]

You old guys and your carts though. I still sling over my Versamax and hump my shells in a bag.

Old guys work smarter, not harder. Someday, you'll get there.

[swiftone]

There are two types of people in this world. Those who dig....

[jon94520]

Old guys work smarter, not harder. Someday, you'll get there.

[ceh383]

Nice Citori.
You old guys and your carts though. I still sling over my Versamax and hump my shells in a bag.

A couple years ago I took my son and son-in-law out to shoot some Sporting Clays. We got to the range only to find out they were having an NSCA event. I didn't want to put them through that as it was their first time shooting it. We decided to go to another range. As we were leaving my son commented on how lazy people were using those carts, my SIL jokingly said you have one of those don't you...I answered yes I do.

We got to the next range and got everything loaded on the cart and off we went. By the end of the day they were both saying what a great idea the cart was.
You still have to push the cart....

[W.R.Buchanan]

I have never shot Sporting Clays, but I am not dumb enough to think you don't need a cart to carry your stuff around. That's why I built mine last summer. I had the cart I just needed to adapt it to carry a gun instead of a golf bag.

Do You guys who don't believe in carts, hump your golf club bags around too? I just bet you don't.

There is one last thing. If you don't have a solid place to rest your gun when you are not shooting it, it will get dinged up. That's all there is to it. This lessens the value of the gun and in nice shotguns that means something even on the entry level guns like the one I got. On a $20,000 gun it really matters.

When shooting Skeet or Trap you have a toe pad on your shoe and you rest the gun on that for the few minutes between shots. There is no trekking between stations as they are only 20 feet apart. The cart allows you a consistent place to rest your gun that protects it from handling damage rather than holding it in your arms and fatiguing your self thruout a long day. You also have to carry ammo which is no big deal with a .410, but with a 12 ga a box weighs a couple of pounds so carrying 4 of them would get old pretty fast.

I store all my good guns in a hard case. They live there full time and go to the range where they are assembled, shot, disassembled, and put back in the case to go home. At home they get the barrels cleaned and the gun is wiped down with a Silicone Rag and put back in the case where it lives until the next time.
The gun I traded for this gun was bought about 10-12 years ago. It had @2000 rounds thru it. It had 2 minute dings in the stock and one on the fore end. It was nearly perfect and that's why they gave me full value for the gun when I traded it in. I lost nothing on that gun because I took care of it!

Nice guns are Investments and should be treated that way.

You should try that too. It has nothing to do with age,, It has to do with Experience!

Randy

[champu]

Do You guys who don't believe in carts, hump your golf club bags around too? I just bet you don't.

...

I store all my good guns in a hard case. They live there full time and go to the range where they are assembled, shot, disassembled, and put back in the case to go home. At home they get the barrels cleaned and the gun is wiped down with a Silicone Rag and put back in the case where it lives

[W.R.Buchanan]

I have desiccate packs in all my cases and I live inland so moisture is not a big problem.

Randy

[swiftone]

I have to admit that this thread makes me chuckle.

[shovelon]

I have to admit that this thread makes me chuckle.

Oh, you don't know the half of it.