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The KSG wasn't bad for me. The KS7 sucked.

The Shockwave is much less accurate and less useful due to no stock.

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KSG.
I tried a friend's KelTec KSG and didn't like the loading of it. When loading more rounds into it, the edges just seemed too sharp.

I don't remember getting slapped in the face particularly, but with any shotgun, if my face isn't all-but-glued to the stock when I pull the trigger, it'd be liable to bruise my face.

Shockwave.
I tried the Mossberg Shockwave, but ended up buying the similar Remington Tac-14 (14" barrel), not knowing the entire Remington company was going to go under, so-to-speak.

My Tac-14 came with one of those SBTactical pistol braces with a Mesa Tactical adapter. Not liking either a bird's head pistol grip or the pistol-brace setup, I ended up converting the Tac-14 to an "sbs" (short barreled shotgun) which isn't an option in California.

My favorite California-legal shotgun is a Mossberg 590A1 with ghost ring sights with the shortest legal barrel length of 18" (actual length 18.5" I believe).

https://www.mossberg.com/product/590a1-m-lok-50765/

You could always put a bird's head or pistol-grip onto the, above, model if you'd like, but I prefer a good full straight stock.

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I tried the new Smith & Wesson M&P12 at my LGS, and I liked it.

It looked better in person, and so far the reviews showed that it functioned pretty well. The front/rear vertical grip design was supposed to help the recoil management.

If your LGS has a M&P 12 in stock, check it out.

[Thefeeder]

Hi there, anyone here ever use these 2? Which one you prefer?

I personally own a KSG, and every.single.damn.time my cheek are super sore due to the recoil. My shoulder can handle it, but my cheek hurts. The KSG recoil are No joke.!

How is the Shockwave Moossberg?

Thanks.

What you are experiencing is bad shotgun fit. Bad fit can be caused by a bad mount, crappy gun ergonomics , bad design, wrong stock, balance, weight........

A lot of shotguns and aftermarket stocks look cool but have a tendency to kick the snot out of you

[axhoaxho]

wow the M&P12 looks so cool, it just I'm short and that shotgun is heavy, heavier than the KSG.

anyhoo has anyone here use 3 inch shells in their shotgun before? I heard the lighter the gun the 3 inch shells will give you a brutal recoil.

but then who the heck would shoot 3 inch shells magnum, unless they be like hunting and dealing with bear?

I have a KSG. The M&P 12 felt heavier, yet it was balance. The front vertical grip also helped to control the weight. I shouldered and handled the M&P 12 at the LGS, and it felt nice. I think I'm getting one.

I've shot many 3 inch shells (long story) and yes they kicked hard. For the love of my shoulder, the 2-3/4" shells would do for me.

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The KSG wasn't bad for me. The KS7 sucked.

The Shockwave is much less accurate and less useful due to no stock.