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  • sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19769

    Score!

    Went into the local CAL Ranch store to look for ammo or maybe some primers. I always take a quick look at the shotguns just in case. I almost missed it, it was so small. A second glance and there it was:



    $399, almost pre-covid price. They're generally $600 and up on gunbroker. The store got 2 12 gauges and 2 30 gauges in last night. This morning someone bought the 2 12 gauges, and as I walked up to the counter, someone was completing the sale for a 20. I don't have any 20's and I'd rather have a 12 but beggars can't be choosers. I snagged the 20.

    They only had one kind of buckshot, Aguila BB. I doubt any other store in town has any 20 gauge buckshot at all. After 1/6 it's been Covid Panic, the Sequel (guess it should be called Biden Panic) and the cupboards are bare all over town. BB buck is only .18, is that effective when it counts?

    The store also had Blackout, which I need, but policy now is ONE box of ammo per day. If I wanted the buckshot, that's my one box. Now I have to go back tomorrow for 20 rounds of Blackout.
  • #2
    Tarmy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2016
    • 4281

    So you actually went for ammo...damn you are desperate!

    So which cost more...a flat of ammo or the shooter?
    Wilson Protector .45, Springer 9mm Loaded, Franchi Instinct SL .12ga. and some other cool stuff for the kiddos...

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    • #3
      smittty
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2008
      • 6254

      Originally posted by sigstroker
      Went into the local CAL Ranch store to look for ammo or maybe some primers. I always take a quick look at the shotguns just in case. I almost missed it, it was so small. A second glance and there it was:



      $399, almost pre-covid price. They're generally $600 and up on gunbroker. The store got 2 12 gauges and 2 30 gauges in last night. This morning someone bought the 2 12 gauges, and as I walked up to the counter, someone was completing the sale for a 20. I don't have any 20's and I'd rather have a 12 but beggars can't be choosers. I snagged the 20.

      They only had one kind of buckshot, Aguila BB. I doubt any other store in town has any 20 gauge buckshot at all. After 1/6 it's been Covid Panic, the Sequel (guess it should be called Biden Panic) and the cupboards are bare all over town. BB buck is only .18, is that effective when it counts?

      The store also had Blackout, which I need, but policy now is ONE box of ammo per day. If I wanted the buckshot, that's my one box. Now I have to go back tomorrow for 20 rounds of Blackout.

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      • #4
        whutsup40
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2009
        • 2727

        Sweet friggin find!!

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        • #5
          L-2
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 1335


          Nice score indeed. Here's the webpage for the OP's firearm.

          For Post#3, Mossberg's website takes a bit of searching and keyboard-punching. There are other 20 gauge shotguns on Mossberg's website.
          Last edited by L-2; 01-16-2021, 5:55 PM.
          (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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          • #6
            sigstroker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2009
            • 19769

            Upon further reflection, I think I'm happier with the 20 gauge. A friend of mine had a 12 and said it was a handful to control. He's a big buff weightlifter and I'm not.

            What about buckshot BB? Is that too small?

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            • #7
              dave rich
              Banned
              • Jan 2021
              • 16

              I think 20guae is okay for me!

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              • #8
                Bakerloo
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 1713

                Here's an in-depth discussion of this important question: if you're aiming for home defense, what's the best shotgun load?
                ...while the buffoon in the White House prances around celebrating butt sex.

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                • #9
                  Cowboy T
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 5725

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  Upon further reflection, I think I'm happier with the 20 gauge. A friend of mine had a 12 and said it was a handful to control. He's a big buff weightlifter and I'm not.

                  What about buckshot BB? Is that too small?
                  Originally posted by dave rich
                  I think 20guae is okay for me!
                  A home invader is not going to like a 20-gauge any more than a 12-gauge, rest assured. The standard recommendation seems to be 00 Buckshot, which is what ours is loaded with, but I've heard good things about 0 Buckshot and #4 Buckshot as well. The 20-gauge in a shorter shotgun like that is going to be much better for actual range practice, which is what one should do with any firearm. With the 20-gauge, you'll actually somewhat enjoy practicing with that 590.
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                  • #10
                    Dan_Eastvale
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 10570

                    Hopefully ammo availability will improve so we'll be able to play with our new to us caliber firearms.

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                    • #11
                      k1dude
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2009
                      • 15331

                      Originally posted by sigstroker
                      A friend of mine had a 12 and said it was a handful to control. He's a big buff weightlifter and I'm not.
                      There's a little adapter made in Texas that snaps into the loading port that makes it easy to run those little 12 ga Aguila mini shells. You can stuff 9 mini shells into the magazine and the recoil is far less.
                      "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • #12
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19769

                        Yeah, but finding those shells is near impossible. Not like it's easy to find any kind of 20 gauge buckshot.

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                        • #13
                          JagerDog
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2011
                          • 15197

                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          Upon further reflection, I think I'm happier with the 20 gauge. A friend of mine had a 12 and said it was a handful to control. He's a big buff weightlifter and I'm not.

                          What about buckshot BB? Is that too small?
                          Not ideal, but will suffice in many circumstances. Run it until you can get some Buck.

                          20g buck is generally #3 Buck as it stacks properly in 20g.
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                          • #14
                            W.R.Buchanan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3380

                            Originally posted by sigstroker
                            Yeah, but finding those shells is near impossible. Not like it's easy to find any kind of 20 gauge buckshot.
                            And that is why we load our own. You could be up and running loading 20ga. for <$100 which would include new components.



                            You buy Primed Hulls, some powder, wads and whatever shot you want, and a Roll Crimp Tool that you will run with a cordless drill. Everything is available and in stock right now!

                            BPI also has all the instructions you could ever want to load virtually any Shotgun Shell known to man.

                            This ain't that hard and we wouldn't have the endure the endless posts from all the "Non Loaders" wanting to know where the last 3 boxes of ammunition are located in CA?

                            Guys: Necessity is the Mother of Invention, And if you haven't noticed, "Necessity" is right now.

                            Jump off a cliff here, and learn to do something new. Next time there is an ammo shortage it won't affect you in any way.

                            Randy
                            Last edited by W.R.Buchanan; 01-17-2021, 12:57 PM.
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                            • #15
                              ceh383
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 2536

                              Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                              And that is why we load our own. You could be up and running loading 20ga. for <$100 which would include new components.

                              ... Next time there is an ammo shortage it won't affect you in any way.

                              Randy
                              Perhaps, but right now unprepared reloaders are having a hard time finding primers. I have a feeling primed hulls will soon be in short supply as well.
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