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  • melvins
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    • Oct 2020
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    .22 Ir shortgun

    any recommendations on .22 lr smooth bore bolt actions? having trouble finding a reasonably priced one. and thinking it might prove cheaper to get a second hand bolty and slap a smooth bore barrel in it.
    any ideas?
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    natman
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 181

    Depends on your definition of "reasonably priced".

    There seems to be just enough market for a smoothbore rimfire for one manufacturer at a time. Marlin had one and dropped it. Savage had one a dropped it. Henry is making them at the moment:

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    • #3
      W.R.Buchanan
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3378

      You didn't say what you wanted it for?

      You don't need a smoothbore barrel for .22 LR Shotshells. They work just fine from a Rifled Barrel and don't hurt it one bit.

      Keep in mind that these shells are loaded with #12 shot which is finer than salt.

      Effective range is about 10-20 feet. Good for Rats or Mice, or small snakes, and that's all they were intended to do.

      If you buy a dedicated gun for them, that's all it will be good for.

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      • #4
        jon94520
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 762

        Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
        You didn't say what you wanted it for?

        You don't need a smoothbore barrel for .22 LR Shotshells. They work just fine from a Rifled Barrel and don't hurt it one bit.

        Keep in mind that these shells are loaded with #12 shot which is finer than salt.

        Effective range is about 10-20 feet. Good for Rats or Mice, or small snakes, and that's all they were intended to do.

        If you buy a dedicated gun for them, that's all it will be good for.

        Randy
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        • #5
          edgerly779
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          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Why? Never heard of one. No need as 22 shot works fine in rifled barrel.

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            I prefer my Rem 121 pump action with a Routledge barrel to my Marlin garden gun in .22 mag.

            Yea, shot shell does sort of function from a rifled barrel but, not as well as through a smoothbore.

            .22lr shotshells come with #12 shot and also with #10 shot. I have used both to break standard clays at a skeet range and also straight aways at ASR where the thrower is right in front of me. I won't waste my time trying them on a trap range but, .22lr shotguns can break standard clays at 20 to 25 yards.

            BTW, if you ever find a bolt action smoothbore .22lr with a Routledge clay thrower mounted to it, I'd be interested if it's priced right.
            Last edited by CSACANNONEER; 10-11-2020, 12:56 PM.
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            • #7
              jon94520
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              • Oct 2016
              • 762

              Originally posted by Boarhuntor
              22 shotshell does not work well with rifled barrels, not because of the damage to the barrel but because the rifling spins the shot and instead of flying straight out of the barrel it fans to all directions, tried it with 22LR and also 12 GA rifled barrel with target and duck load.
              Not good
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              • #8
                CSACANNONEER
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                • Dec 2006
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                and, it doesn't work "well" out of revolvers either but, normally, when shooting shotshells through a handgun, the target is at such a close range that the shot shell still "works" enough to get the job done.
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                • #9
                  Quiet
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  Originally posted by melvins
                  any recommendations on .22 lr smooth bore bolt actions? having trouble finding a reasonably priced one. and thinking it might prove cheaper to get a second hand bolty and slap a smooth bore barrel in it.
                  any ideas?
                  Keep in mind that in order to be CA legal, the non-rifled barrel needs to be 18" or greater.

                  If the non-rifled barrel length is less than 18", then it is considered an "unconventional pistol" under CA laws. [PC 17270]
                  It is illegal (felony) to import, make, transfer, or possess an "unconventional pistol" in CA. [PC 31500]




                  Penal Code 17270Penal Code 31500
                  Except as provided in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any unconventional pistol is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.
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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44093

                    Originally posted by Boarhuntor
                    And also a revolver barrel is much shorter.
                    The load does not get such spinning momentum as in a linger rifle barrel.
                    We managed to kill a rattle out of a revolver 2-3 Ft away, but it took a number of shots.
                    I doubt it would be effective in a "longer" distances like 5 and more ft.
                    Actually, I routine dispatch buzzworms with a NNA mini revolver (rifled barrel of course) from 3-5 feet.
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                    • #11
                      melvins
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                      • Oct 2020
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                      Originally posted by natman
                      Depends on your definition of "reasonably priced".

                      There seems to be just enough market for a smoothbore rimfire for one manufacturer at a time. Marlin had one and dropped it. Savage had one a dropped it. Henry is making them at the moment:
                      https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_...s_id/415010148
                      imma check it out, thabks for this

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                      • #12
                        Spyder
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 17037

                        Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                        You didn't say what you wanted it for?

                        You don't need a smoothbore barrel for .22 LR Shotshells. They work just fine from a Rifled Barrel and don't hurt it one bit.

                        Keep in mind that these shells are loaded with #12 shot which is finer than salt.

                        Effective range is about 10-20 feet. Good for Rats or Mice, or small snakes, and that's all they were intended to do.

                        If you buy a dedicated gun for them, that's all it will be good for.

                        Randy
                        Is "I want one" not good enough reason?

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                        • #13
                          Spyder
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                          • Mar 2008
                          • 17037

                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          Actually, I routine dispatch buzzworms with a NNA mini revolver (rifled barrel of course) from 3-5 feet.
                          I still remember when you did a little test with it. I started keeping 22lr and mag snake shot on hand with mine for just that reason. It's come in handy a bunch of times.

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                          • #14
                            Ducky's Dad
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                            • Dec 2012
                            • 737

                            With the lead ban for hunting in CA, I would suspect that it is technically illegal to dispatch snakes or rodents with lead snakeshot. Technically. Can anyone clarify?

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                            • #15
                              Boarhuntor
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                              Originally posted by Boarhuntor
                              I doubt it would be effective in a "longer" distances like 5 and more ft.
                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              Actually, I routine dispatch buzzworms with a NNA mini revolver (rifled barrel of course) from 3-5 feet.
                              Please remind me what you are arguing about?


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                              Last edited by Boarhuntor; 10-11-2020, 8:00 PM.

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