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  • Rugerman
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 406

    Benelli M4 is illegal right?

    since it has the pistol grip (EVIL FEATURE) right?
  • #2
    NSR500
    Banned
    • Aug 2006
    • 19530

    No... As long as you don't have a 7 round tube in it and a barrel shorter than 16", it should be as legal as my M1S90 with Pistol Grip.

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    • #3
      Josh
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1058

      Originally posted by NSR500
      No... As long as you don't have a 7 round tube in it and a barrel shorter than 16", it should be as legal as my M1S90 with Pistol Grip.
      shotguns are limited to 18in barrels min.

      also the 7rd tube is fine, possibly it violates 922r thats on a federal level.

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      • #4
        NSR500
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 19530

        Hmmm... I've gotta break mine out of the safe tomorrow and measure it up again.

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        • #5
          PIRATE14
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3189

          Originally posted by NSR500
          Hmmm... I've gotta break mine out of the safe tomorrow and measure it up again.
          18" MIN.....no way you've got one shorter than that, unless you cut it or got it AOW.....not likely in this state.
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          • #6
            NSR500
            Banned
            • Aug 2006
            • 19530

            Couldn't wait... Mine comes in at 18.5", so disregard what I said about 16" unless you want to go to jail. LOL...

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44653

              Originally posted by Rugerman
              since it has the pistol grip (EVIL FEATURE) right?
              It looks like this is a concern over whether a pistol grip can make a shotgun a CA 'assault weapon'; if so, the answer is "no":
              12276 (c) All of the following specified shotguns:
              (1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
              (2) Striker 12.
              (3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.

              12276.1 (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
              (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
              is apparently all the aw law says about shotguns.
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              • #8
                xenophobe
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2006
                • 7069

                The only laws regulating the Benelli M4 are the Federal importation laws...

                If it's a semi-automatic shotgun with a capacity of up to five rounds, it can be imported with a pistol grip. You can't add a 7 round extension to it without removing the pistol grip.

                That's why HK Benelli M1's are desirable. You can have the extended magazine and the pistol grip stock.

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                • #9
                  gose
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3953

                  Originally posted by xenophobe
                  The only laws regulating the Benelli M4 are the Federal importation laws...

                  If it's a semi-automatic shotgun with a capacity of up to five rounds, it can be imported with a pistol grip. You can't add a 7 round extension to it without removing the pistol grip.

                  That's why HK Benelli M1's are desirable. You can have the extended magazine and the pistol grip stock.
                  Not entirely true. You only need to replace one part to be in compliance with 922(r), so a new follower, mag body or forearm (Made in the US) will get you to 10 parts and you can then enjoy your mag extension and pistol grip.
                  With Oden on our side.

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                  • #10
                    xenophobe
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 7069

                    Who makes Benelli compliance parts in the US?

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                    • #11
                      bwiese
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27621

                      Someone needs to make US-mfgd mag extensions for Benellis...

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                      • #12
                        gose
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3953

                        Mfr: SRM PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
                        Browse a HUGE selection of hunting rifles & shotguns, gun parts, gunsmithing tools, reloading equipment, ammo, and more! Brownells: Since 1939

                        "M4 kit contains extension tube, spring, and follower."

                        So that should be all you need

                        Or you could get the SureFire M80 Picatinny Rail Forend, which would also reduce the parts count to 10.

                        There are probably more options out there as well....
                        With Oden on our side.

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                        • #13
                          Spawn_X
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 1981

                          Originally posted by xenophobe
                          The only laws regulating the Benelli M4 are the Federal importation laws...

                          If it's a semi-automatic shotgun with a capacity of up to five rounds, it can be imported with a pistol grip. You can't add a 7 round extension to it without removing the pistol grip.
                          Are you sure?? I thought a US made extension was ok as its a US made part there's many many guys with them.. <see below?>

                          I've got an M4 and have been hung up on that. It seemed a grey area to me but 99.99% say that a US made extension is OK.. ?

                          Originally posted by gose
                          Mfr: SRM PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
                          Browse a HUGE selection of hunting rifles & shotguns, gun parts, gunsmithing tools, reloading equipment, ammo, and more! Brownells: Since 1939

                          "M4 kit contains extension tube, spring, and follower."

                          So that should be all you need

                          Or you could get the SureFire M80 Picatinny Rail Forend, which would also reduce the parts count to 10.

                          There are probably more options out there as well....

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                          • #14
                            gose
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3953

                            Originally posted by Spawn_X
                            Are you sure?? I thought a US made extension was ok as its a US made part there's many many guys with them.. <see below?>

                            I've got an M4 and have been hung up on that. It seemed a grey area to me but 99.99% say that a US made extension is OK.. ?
                            According to ATF, the M4 has 11 listed parts and hence you need to replace only one(1) to be in 922(r) compliance. The extension is not a listed part, so it doesn't matter where the extension is made, what matters is that you replace one of the 11 listed parts with a US made one.
                            With Oden on our side.

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                            • #15
                              Josh
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1058

                              Originally posted by bwiese
                              Someone needs to make US-mfgd mag extensions for Benellis...

                              Someone does. http://shootersconnection.com/store/...11354e0c7150d8

                              They also come with a US made follower.

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