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  • electric7
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 599

    First range day with Mossberg 930 JM Pro Series - 3 gun prep

    Just wanted to share my feedback on the Mossberg 930 JM pro. There are a few websites that stated that this was a good budget option for 3 gun. I picked it up for $650 at Sportsmans Warehouse. This is my first shotgun and I relied on blogs like this to help me be successful.

    Based on youtube videos and blogs some of the concerns are:

    1) Failure to eject issues
    2) Gun shoots high, having to aim 1ft below target
    3) Has a cheap follower, requires upgrading
    4) Gun has issues in general

    So, the 10 days was unnerving with all this going through my head. Was this truth or fake news, time would tell.

    Many rumors have some truth behind them so I took steps to insure success.

    To minimize the failure to eject issue, I did a couple things. First, I disassembled and cleaned out the grease. Some places had a little and some places had way to much. There is an awesome cleaning video on youtube by JM. JM is saying it doesn't need a lot of lubrication to operate reliably. How can you argue with that! Next, I bought into the break in theory and bought a mix of hot ammo to test it out. Below are the test results.

    1st - 10 rounds Hornady Critical Defense 00buck 2-3/4 1600FPS, no issues
    2nd - 10 rounds Hornady Black 00buck 2-3/4 1600FPS, no issues
    3rd - 15 rounds Winchester Super X 2-3/4 00buck 1325FPS, no issues
    4th - 25 rounds Rio Game Load 2-3/4 #6 1-1/4oz 1330FPS, no issues
    5th - 25 rounds Aguila Target Load 2-3/4 #7-1/2 1-1/8oz 1250FPS, 2 failures to eject out of 25
    6th - 25 rounds Winchester AA Super Sport 2-3/4 #7-1/2 1-1/8oz, 1300FPS, no issues
    7th - 25 rounds Winchester Super X 2-3/4 #7-1/2 1oz, 1290FPS, no issues
    8th - 25 rounds Remington Gun Club Target Load 2-3/4 #7-1/2 1-1/8oz, 1200FPS, no issues

    So, these results were great! Only two failures out of 165 rounds.

    Next, to insure the gun would shoot were I was aiming, I installed Tru Glo Magnum Gobble Dot Pro Series sights. To be fair, I never determined if the shooting high rumor was true. But, it doesn't matter, the Tru Glo sight were awesome and they were able to be sighted in perfectly!

    Regarding the follower, when I took the gun apart, I did feel like it was a cheap part. It was steel and was a little rough. Perhaps that has gotten hung up for others if your mag tube got dirty. So, I polished it up with a dremel like you would for a cheap trigger. It was a lot smoother after that. The tube was smooth and with a polished follower, seems like that will do the trick. We will see if it ever becomes an issue.

    Last issue, gun has issues in general. Well, maybe it does and maybe it doesn't. I think this gun will probably run better on higher powered ammo until it loosens up. But, every gas semi automatic weapon has some balance between reliability and power, thus the reason for adjustable gas blocks and buffer weights in ARs.

    Anyways, hope this helps the next guy. I could have bought a Benelli or FNH to boost my confidence. But, I am glad I didn't have too. Now, that is not to say that I won't trade up in the future, but it wouldn't be because the JM pro was a bad gun. It was a lot of fun to shoot and it performed great!
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    wolfmann
    Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 466

    Sounds good I have been thinking about one myself,watched the JM vid also.I would trust him over the others that I have seen but if the cheap bastard bug strikes me again I might try the Hatfield for 200,looks like they have fixed the past issues with them but then again the JM is really what I want.

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    • #3
      xXRifleManXx
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 1194

      I just went and did a bunch of shooting today with my 590a1 and jm pro 930. Three boxes of low base #8 on throwing clays (bead at 6 o’clock) out the of 930 and about 100 of estate 00 buck and 25 super x 1oz slugs (poa=poi at 50yards) smashing pumpkins collected from all the neighbors. I have the orgun follower, fore end spacer, and gas piston in it.

      I have two issues with the gun every time I take it out.

      Loading into the gate if you don’t insert the round fully it hesitates for half a second then throws the round into the lifter. If your loading with a round chambered this sucks. I have not relieved the feeding port but believe this would solve the problem. Seems like the thumb just needs that 1/8” more to clear the retention latch 100%.

      Second is it makes ammo evaporate.
      Soft shooting and fast.
      Still love my 590 a1 more though.
      WTB m&p 9 5?

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      • #4
        shovelon
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 1844

        The 930 JM sounds like an iffy sporting clays gun.
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        • #5
          electric7
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 599

          I got some practice in loading doubles. Yes, I got a couple rounds stuck by not pushing them in the mag tube firmly. I did read some advice about welding the lifter. Suppose that would fix that issue. To clear the round, I cycled the bolt. Funny, cuz then I was pushing the rounds in to deeply and my thumb would get stuck.
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          • #6
            shovelon
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1844

            Originally posted by electric7
            I got some practice in loading doubles. Yes, I got a couple rounds stuck by not pushing them in the mag tube firmly. I did read some advice about welding the lifter. Suppose that would fix that issue. To clear the round, I cycled the bolt. Funny, cuz then I was pushing the rounds in to deeply and my thumb would get stuck.
            This one?


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            • #7
              shovelon
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 1844

              Here is a previous thread on the mods.

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              • #8
                T6pilot
                Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 354

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                • #9
                  W.R.Buchanan
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3364

                  I would highly recommend running alot of Birdshot thru your gun. You don't need to run heavy loads for any purpose that gun is intended for. It won't break in any faster with heavy loads and you'll just feel worse doing it. It's all about bolt cycles,, not "ferocity" of bolt cycles.

                  If you are going to run high base loads in 3 gun, the match directors might have some issues with that as you will be destroying their targets.

                  There is no need to run anything above Walmart Federal $21.74/100 #8 Birdshot, Low Recoil Buckshot and Low Recoil Slugs. Don't get the Walmart Winchester $21.74 ammo as Winchester has some QC issues they haven't figured out yet, which lead to failures to feed and eject. See pic. Note how one Win hull is buckled and the other is flared out,,, then in the second pic note how the Federal hull has a nice radius on it and the Win hull doesn't.

                  All you are doing is beating yourself and the gun unnecessarily by running the high based ammo. You use that stuff for knocking down doors and urban assaults.

                  I would also highly recommend going to Front Sight and taking a 4 day Tactical/ Defensive Shotgun Class. Your gun will be fully broke in after that and you'll actually know how to run it efficiently. Best of both worlds.

                  Randy


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                  • #10
                    electric7
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 599

                    In my case, I didn't have time to take a class. So, that's why I went with higher loads. Why would hotter loads not assist with break in. Hotter loads means more force, thus more wear and tear. Seems like softer loads would only extend the break in.
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                    • #11
                      seal20
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3081

                      Check out OR3GUN.com

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                      • #12
                        electric7
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 599

                        Cool stuff, will definitely pick up a couple items!
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                        • #13
                          kramynot
                          Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 258

                          I picked up a "used" (only had about 50 rounds through it) JM Pro earlier this year. I've had it to the range a few times and took it to a 6-stage tactical shotgun match and had no issues at all. This was using the cheap Federal stuff from Walmart. I've opened up the loading port which makes loading much easier.

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                          • #14
                            Calif Hunter
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3266

                            The Walmart Federal ammo vs Winchester ammo - I have a Remington 1100 Tactical that works flawlessly with the Federal ammo and jams with the Winchester. Estate brand also seems to work just fine.

                            Our club requires birdshot for the 3-gun stages as buck shot tears up our knockdowns.

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                            • #15
                              k1dude
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2009
                              • 13849

                              I had to run 1,200 rounds of high base #6 before my FN SLP MKII Competition could shoot cheap Wally World Federal #7.5 or #8.

                              It would've been absolute torture to run 1,200 rounds of malfunctions if I had only used Wally World cheapies to break it in.

                              I ran it through a 2 day class and a 4 day class at Front Sight when it was new using high base #6 without a problem. But it still choked on anything less than 1,300 fps with a 1-1/8 load.

                              Once it was finally broken-in, it's 100% reliable on anything, including crappy Wally World Winchester #8.
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