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  • mrb865
    Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 243

    12 gauge less lethal ammo

    Anybody know where I can get some less lethal 12ga rounds like bean bags, rubber balls, pepper balls in the Sacramento area?
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Unless you are an exempt person, it is CA illegal to possess/use any type of chemical (pepper/tear gas) ammunition. [PC 22900]
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    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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    • #3
      TripleThreat
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2012
      • 2629

      Old Skool

      Salt rock. FTW.
      1911 "The MILF of handguns"

      LINK: 9mm Shootout: BHP vs 92A1 vs SP-01 vs P-01

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      • #4
        FeuerFrei
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2008
        • 7455

        Do a search for rubber buckshot.
        https://buckshotmold.com/rubber_buckshot.htm. S&B sells loaded ammo IIRC.

        Sent using a long string and 2 used soup cans

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        • #5
          edgerly779
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 19871

          Better be in the right if you use it. It is adw felony if wrong.

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          • #6
            bigbearbear
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5378

            You can also try loading your own, or convert cheap target birdshots and replace the lead shots with something else.

            There is a Youtube channel, Taofledermaus, owner is based in California and he does a number of videos loading strange ammo (some of them not very lethal) into shotshells.

            For example, candy slugs:

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            • #7
              Dirtlaw
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2018
              • 3480

              Originally posted by mrb865
              Anybody know where I can get some less lethal 12ga rounds like bean bags, rubber balls, pepper balls in the Sacramento area?

              Several years ago I saw some at a gun show. I think they were police surplus or something like that.

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              • #8
                whutsup40
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Mar 2009
                • 2727

                I'm sorry I'm just gonna shoot them with lethal ammo and hope it works out!!

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                • #9
                  NATEWA
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 5977

                  Contact Ammo Depot and see what they have in stock. They can order what you want.

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                  • #10
                    p7m8jg
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1914

                    Why not just get a taser & let the perp ride the lightning?
                    If that doesn't work you light them up with buckshot.

                    Oh, right, the cost.

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                    • #11
                      champu
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 1981

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      Unless you are an exempt person, it is CA illegal to possess/use any type of chemical (pepper/tear gas) ammunition. [PC 22900]
                      PC 22810 (e)(1) is the more relevant citation.

                      22810 (e) (1) No person shall purchase, possess, or use any tear gas weapon that expels a projectile, or that expels the tear gas by any method other than an aerosol spray, or that contains more than 2.5 ounces net weight of aerosol spray.

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                      • #12
                        Dan_Eastvale
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 10325

                        If it's a felony to use non lethal ammo if they think you were in the wrong then why not just use 00 buck so he can't give his side of the story? Improves your case.

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by edgerly779
                          Better be in the right if you use it. It is adw felony if wrong.
                          Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                          If it's a felony to use non lethal ammo if they think you were in the wrong then why not just use 00 buck so he can't give his side of the story? Improves your case.
                          They are correct on it's usage.

                          Under CA laws, discharing a firearm at a person is considered assault with a deadly weapon regardless of the type of ammunition being used.

                          So, the standard to determine if shooting a person with less lethal ammo is justified is the same as if shooting the person with standard lethal ammo.
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                          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                          • #14
                            -hanko
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 14174

                            Originally posted by mrb865
                            Anybody know where I can get some less lethal 12ga rounds like bean bags, rubber balls, pepper balls in the Sacramento area?
                            Most professionals use a stack of dimes...expensive but workable.
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                            • #15
                              tocino
                              Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 178

                              I’d hate to get sued by the perp if I end up maiming him in the event of a home invasion. Plus what if he shrugs off a beanbag or rubber bullet and manages to close the distance where he can disarm me or he has a firearm/knife/club/ etc.. of his own?

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