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  • aghauler
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 4794

    410 lever questions/thoughts

    First off I sold my Marlin 410 years ago long before they tripled (or more) in price!

    After culling the herd here a little been thinking about next purchase.
    May post some CA legal stuff in the future, have to look things over.

    Top of the list to purchase because I have no 22 mag long gun is a Henry Small Game, 22 mag with peep site (old eyes)

    But NEXT is the a lever 410, for buck and slugs, so time to ask opinions especially from those that may own and use either of two Brands/Models. I've had my hands on both at the local Cabelas, but aren't going to pay their inflated prices.

    Truthfully I'm not overly versed in shotguns so am posting to my "GO TO PLACE" for info, CalGuns!

    1st: The Adler 410, with fixed modified choke, 2.5 chamber, but some reviews say they take 3in shells also? About 20" bbl, bottom loader, approx. price $315
    (Cabela's $399!) Has odd lever that extends down from receiver when operating the action.
    Decent quality.
    .
    Made for serious fun and serious farm work, this compact.410 gauge lever gun with it's mild recoil and light weight is ideal for fun at the range. At the same time, it's also a hard working no nonsense workhorse, ideal for keeping pests and vermin in check along with other daily tasks around the farm. This is the Adler A-110. It will reliably cycle both 2.5 inch and 3 inch shells, features a fixed choke vent rib barrel with brass bead, soft rubber buttpad, high quality Turkish walnut furniture, and all the legendary reliability Adler A110's are renowned for.


    Next are the 2 Henry's about twice the price but both tube fed, The 20in bbl model has a fixed Cylinder Bore choke, 2.5 in chamber adjustable sights

    I think all the specs for both the Henry's will show at this link:

    Made for serious fun and serious farm work, this compact.410 gauge lever gun with it's mild recoil and light weight is ideal for fun at the range. At the same time, it's also a hard working no nonsense workhorse, ideal for keeping pests and vermin in check along with other daily tasks around the farm. This is the Adler A-110. It will reliably cycle both 2.5 inch and 3 inch shells, features a fixed choke vent rib barrel with brass bead, soft rubber buttpad, high quality Turkish walnut furniture, and all the legendary reliability Adler A110's are renowned for.


    They can be had for $650 (20 in bbl) -$680 (24 in bbl)

    Henry info states the 24 in bbl. has a full Invector choke, which is removable (others available separately, are they all that short??), I looked at it and it really is quite short of course not a big gauge bore either, and bead front sight only.

    I do have a Mossberg M500 E 410 that handles 3in shells. Right now it has the 18.5 bbl on it, but I do have the longer bbl. for it also. Also have my brothers Monkey Wards bolt action 3 shot 410 that handles 3 in shells, cost $25 in 1958 delivered to the front door!

    But the lever action "hole" in the collection remains.

    So any info on the three lever shotgun guns (410ga), opinions would be appreciated.

    As an aside:

    Have been trying to sell my mint condition Ted Williams M-200 12 ga for several years on the Market Place here, after several "I'll take it PM" buyers that evaporated (don't ya just hate those types) I recently decided to keep it as the more I handled it the more I realized it really is nicely balanced and VERY smooth, even with the small poly choke on it, so I'm keeping it and just need to do some thing about the petrified recoil pad!

    With close access to a City operated range now here in ABQ, New Mexico, you can shoot trap, skeet etc 5 buck per 25 clays or something like that, or rifle and pistol range is $6 all day. We are developing a shooting club group in our Del Webb to go to the range on frequent basis.
  • #2
    BOBGBA
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Sep 2010
    • 2389

    Hi ag,

    I looked at your Ted Williams several times and despite already having a surplus of shotguns, would have bought it if you were local. To me (and maybe others), the extra costs (shipping, dealer transfer fee and sales tax) were the deal killer.

    On a different note, some choke tubes are even shorter. Take a look at the picture on the right using the link below and you may be surprised.


    Over time some choke tubes have become longer (but not the .410)

    Bob
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    • #3
      aghauler
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 4794

      Originally posted by BOBGBA
      Hi ag,

      I looked at your Ted Williams several times and despite already having a surplus of shotguns, would have bought it if you were local. To me (and maybe others), the extra costs (shipping, dealer transfer fee and sales tax) were the deal killer.

      On a different note, some choke tubes are even shorter. Take a look at the picture on the right using the link below and you may be surprised.


      Over time some choke tubes have become longer (but not the .410)

      Bob
      Many thanks for that link! The choke I saw in that Henry didn't look more than 3/4 inch long or less, I wasn't used to seeing them that short!

      Regarding the Ted Williams sale, had I been in CA when I decided to sell it I would have put a higher price on it.
      I understand the shipping and transfer fees, the sales tax doesn't have to be charged if a note or letter is enclosed from the seller (gifter) the item is a "gift". That according to my local FFL in Tahoe that handled all my modern gun transfers.

      "No one has to know money changed hands from a private party in the gifting process according to him. I don't know if that has changed.

      Commercial vendors are different story they have to account for inventory so there are "records kept", so he told me no "gift letter or invoice" sales tax is charged at Blue Book Value.

      Plus it would have been shipped in a new hard case along with it's beautiful original heavily fleece lined leather Ted Williams case! So "technically" I might have lost money on it from my end also but somebody would have gotten a really nice shotgun back into CA!

      I fully understand and can appreciate your point of view all quite valid as well as thanks for even considering buying it!

      Even had one "buyer" commit "regardless of costs" numerous emails, PM's, then just "disappeared!" without a "gee I changed my mind", which I would have been fine with, just communicate don't leave me wondering! Sheesh!

      All a mute point now, I just have to decide on the butt pad issue, guess I'll try a slip on Limbsaver first to see if it makes the LOP too long.
      Surprisingly Cabela's has practically zero choices and I haven't checked Sportsman's Warehouse yet, maybe tomorrow.
      I'll always post CA legal stuff on Calguns first before selling local though.

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      • #4
        Jeepergeo
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 3506

        Originally posted by aghauler
        Regarding the Ted Williams sale, had I been in CA when I decided to sell it I would have put a higher price on it.
        I understand the shipping and transfer fees, the sales tax doesn't have to be charged if a note or letter is enclosed from the seller (gifter) the item is a "gift". That according to my local FFL in Tahoe that handled all my modern gun transfers.

        "No one has to know money changed hands from a private party in the gifting process according to him. I don't know if that has changed.

        Commercial vendors are different story they have to account for inventory so there are "records kept", so he told me no "gift letter or invoice" sales tax is charged at Blue Book Value.
        Jeeze, promoting breaking tax laws when selling a firearm.... Jeeze.
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        • #5
          JagerDog
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          • May 2011
          • 14777

          Had a Winchester 9410. I found the 2.5" limiting and it balanced/fit like a rifle vs. shotgun so not to adept at flying targets. Sold it here in the marketplace. Fun "gopher gun", but too valuable for that role. Picked up an old Marlin single shot bolt 410 for that purpose.

          If your main fodder will be buck/slugs, I might suggest a 45 Colt levergun instead.

          I have a Circuit Judge as a "camp meat" gun, but with the rifled barrel, the shotgun pattern falls apart after 18-20 yards.
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          • #6
            bjl333
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            • Dec 2009
            • 7010

            If you're gonna shoot slugs then go with the Henry. The mod choke will open up with slugs. Having choke tubes is worth paying the extra cash!
            I have the Marlin and they have a cylinder choke. They are fun little gun to shoot.
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            • #7
              aghauler
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 4794

              JagerDog

              bjl333

              Thanks for that info, much appreciated.

              Thought about the long bbled Judge but decided to go "traditional"

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