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  • GreggieBoy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2012
    • 923

    Hi-Vis Sight

    Bought one of these for my 870 Wingmaster:

    HIVIZ® M-Series Magnetic Shotgun Sights deliver ultimate versatility with snap-on bases in four sizes to fit any rib width and interchangeable LitePipes.


    I cinch to install - just key right off of the front bead sight. Think it is going to work well.
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    W.R.Buchanan
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3380

    It will,,, all my front sights on all my shotguns and pistols are green FO.

    In the sun they come alive and in failing light they are like big green light bulbs on your gun.

    Randy
    Rule #1 Liberals screw up everything they touch.
    Rule #2 Whatever they accuse you of, they are already doing.
    Rule #3 Liberals lie about anything no matter how insignificant.
    Rule #4 If all else fails, they call you a Racist!

    It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It is how well you do what you don't know how to do.
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    • #3
      Thefeeder
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 5007

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      Depends on what you plan to use the shotgun for. Personally, I don't like them on a practical use shotgun, does more harm then good IMHO

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      • #4
        BOBGBA
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2010
        • 2392

        I thought you were supposed to rely on a good mount/fit and to stare hard at the target (with the bead not even really noticed or in focus).
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        • #5
          meno377
          ?????
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jul 2013
          • 4911

          What are you guys shooting at with these hivizsights? I can't imagine shooting birds with these helping anyone anymore than a regular bead and yet some will even take those off.

          Stationary targets I suppose.
          Originally posted by Fjold
          I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
          Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
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          • #6
            GreggieBoy
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2012
            • 923

            More for when things go bump in the night.
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            • #7
              whutsup40
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2009
              • 2727

              if you are looking at that while shooting any clay games you are not gonna hit didley squat, lol I don't even see my bead when shooting.

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              • #8
                XVIga_Rob
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 2354

                Originally posted by meno377
                What are you guys shooting at with these hivizsights? I can't imagine shooting birds with these helping anyone anymore than a regular bead and yet some will even take those off.

                Stationary targets I suppose.
                ^^^^ This is really all they are good for (turkey, coyote, and slug hunting). They will not help with anything else.

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                • #9
                  RandyCat
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 286

                  Originally posted by Thefeeder
                  Depends on what you plan to use the shotgun for. Personally, I don't like them on a practical use shotgun, does more harm then good IMHO
                  1+
                  I instantly started shooting better by removing my sight completely. All my shotguns have bare rib.
                  Remember, intuitive shooting.
                  Any destruction in your field of view cripples you.
                  But it is an excellent actuary for the manufacturers. They make а lot of money selling glittering toys.
                  Last edited by RandyCat; 11-05-2018, 7:28 PM.

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                  • #10
                    W.R.Buchanan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3380

                    I guess you's guys haven't heard that the Front Sight is what you should be focusing on. This is not new information it is just not emphasized as much as it should be.

                    It is even more true with shotguns as you don't even need to focus on the target and it can be fuzzy because you are not aiming at a point, you are out in front of the bird (clay or meat.) You are aiming at an area, not a spot.

                    This is the most common error in shooting, and all of us older guys who were taught to shift focus from the target to the sights and back and forth have a hard time breaking the habit. I know I did.

                    Peep Sights make it easier as all you do is place the Front Sight on the target and let fly. The Front Sight automatically centers itself in the Rear Aperture, and if the Aperture is the correct size your Front Sight will be in focus, not the target.

                    An aperture acts just like a lens. You might remember "Pin Hole Cameras" from your Boy Scout days before the gays took it over.

                    Red Dots are even easier Dot, Target, Trigger.

                    In all these cases you focus on the aiming point on the gun not the target.

                    The whole purpose of the Green FO is to draw your attention to the Front Sight so you concentrate on it, not everything else in your field of view!

                    Gosh,,, I wonder if these Sight Manufacturers might know something that the average shooter doesn't know.

                    This is the hardest habit related to shooting there is to break.

                    Once you do, you'll shoot alot better.

                    Randy
                    Last edited by W.R.Buchanan; 11-06-2018, 8:36 AM.
                    Rule #1 Liberals screw up everything they touch.
                    Rule #2 Whatever they accuse you of, they are already doing.
                    Rule #3 Liberals lie about anything no matter how insignificant.
                    Rule #4 If all else fails, they call you a Racist!

                    It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It is how well you do what you don't know how to do.
                    www.buchananprecisionmachine.com

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                    • #11
                      CaptnCaveman
                      Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 232

                      A shotgun is not a pistol or rifle. There is a saying, "you point a shotgun, you don't aim it." Fancy sights don't help with this.

                      Made myself laugh just now by imagining someone gluing a Hi-Viz sight on the fingernail of their index finger so they could point at things better.

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                      • #12
                        meno377
                        ?????
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 4911

                        Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                        I guess you's guys haven't heard that the Front Sight is what you should be focusing on. This is not new information it is just not emphasized as much as it should be.

                        It is even more true with shotguns as you don't even need to focus on the target and it can be fuzzy because you are not aiming at a point, you are out in front of the bird (clay or meat.) You are aiming at an area, not a spot.

                        This is the most common error in shooting, and all of us older guys who were taught to shift focus from the target to the sights and back and forth have a hard time breaking the habit. I know I did.

                        Peep Sights make it easier as all you do is place the Front Sight on the target and let fly. The Front Sight automatically centers itself in the Rear Aperture, and if the Aperture is the correct size your Front Sight will be in focus, not the target.

                        An aperture acts just like a lens. You might remember "Pin Hole Cameras" from your Boy Scout days before the gays took it over.

                        Red Dots are even easier Dot, Target, Trigger.

                        In all these cases you focus on the aiming point on the gun not the target.

                        The whole purpose of the Green FO is to draw your attention to the Front Sight so you concentrate on it, not everything else in your field of view!

                        Gosh,,, I wonder if these Sight Manufacturers might know something that the average shooter doesn't know.

                        This is the hardest habit related to shooting there is to break.

                        Once you do, you'll shoot alot better.

                        Randy
                        Kim Rhode didn't get the memo. I don't know where you get your info, but with all due respect when it comes to birds, clays you look directly at the target and use your peripheral vision to lead with the barrel. The barrel is simply an extension of you when applied correctly.

                        Check this video on Todd Bender:




                        His own words at :58 seconds is peripheral vision. No one who shoots clays has EVER said to me or any of my friends to look down the barrel when shooting any birds or clays. Please go shoot a round of skeet, trap, or sporting clays and tell us how you do when you look at the barrel. I will bet you your score will suffer compared to focusing on the birds.

                        When Todd Bender mentions eye shift, what does that mean to you? To me and anyone who understands, it's about your eyes shifting to the target. Otherwise why would he ever mention that if you're supposed to look down the barrel the whole time?
                        Last edited by meno377; 11-06-2018, 9:31 AM.
                        Originally posted by Fjold
                        I've been married so long that I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
                        Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
                        -Milton Friedman


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                        • #13
                          fecalguns
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 1341

                          Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                          I guess you's guys haven't heard that the Front Sight is what you should be focusing on. This is not new information it is just not emphasized as much as it should be.

                          It is even more true with shotguns as you don't even need to focus on the target and it can be fuzzy because you are not aiming at a point, you are out in front of the bird (clay or meat.) You are aiming at an area, not a spot.

                          This is the most common error in shooting, and all of us older guys who were taught to shift focus from the target to the sights and back and forth have a hard time breaking the habit. I know I did.

                          Peep Sights make it easier as all you do is place the Front Sight on the target and let fly. The Front Sight automatically centers itself in the Rear Aperture, and if the Aperture is the correct size your Front Sight will be in focus, not the target.

                          An aperture acts just like a lens. You might remember "Pin Hole Cameras" from your Boy Scout days before the gays took it over.

                          Red Dots are even easier Dot, Target, Trigger.

                          In all these cases you focus on the aiming point on the gun not the target.

                          The whole purpose of the Green FO is to draw your attention to the Front Sight so you concentrate on it, not everything else in your field of view!

                          Gosh,,, I wonder if these Sight Manufacturers might know something that the average shooter doesn't know.

                          This is the hardest habit related to shooting there is to break.

                          Once you do, you'll shoot alot better.

                          Randy
                          Randy. If you like, come to Oak Tree and shoot with me and some other friends. I would really like to see how you shoot looking down the barrel. I am new to the sport, but after shooting clays, (skeet and sporting clays) I have gotten much better especially with skeet. I am consistently getting 22,23,24 almost every time now when I shoot skeet. I would certainly like to see your technique and try it, but I have been told over and over that you look at the birds.

                          The saying we all joke about when we shoot is: See bird, shoot bird. Looking down the barrel may work great for you and I don't deny that you probably shoot very well, but this is the first time I have heard this so far.

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                          • #14
                            Blade Gunner
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 4422

                            I tried a hi viz magnetic sight. The point of aim of the fiber optic is higher than the stock bead sight on a Rem 870, causing my shots to go low. I went back to the bead.
                            If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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                            • #15
                              Thefeeder
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 5007

                              Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan
                              I guess you's guys haven't heard that the Front Sight is what you should be focusing on. This is not new information it is just not emphasized as much as it should be.

                              It is even more true with shotguns as you don't even need to focus on the target and it can be fuzzy because you are not aiming at a point, you are out in front of the bird (clay or meat.) You are aiming at an area, not a spot.

                              This is the most common error in shooting, and all of us older guys who were taught to shift focus from the target to the sights and back and forth have a hard time breaking the habit. I know I did.

                              Peep Sights make it easier as all you do is place the Front Sight on the target and let fly. The Front Sight automatically centers itself in the Rear Aperture, and if the Aperture is the correct size your Front Sight will be in focus, not the target.

                              An aperture acts just like a lens. You might remember "Pin Hole Cameras" from your Boy Scout days before the gays took it over.

                              Red Dots are even easier Dot, Target, Trigger.

                              In all these cases you focus on the aiming point on the gun not the target.

                              The whole purpose of the Green FO is to draw your attention to the Front Sight so you concentrate on it, not everything else in your field of view!

                              Gosh,,, I wonder if these Sight Manufacturers might know something that the average shooter doesn't know.

                              This is the hardest habit related to shooting there is to break.

                              Once you do, you'll shoot alot better.

                              Randy
                              Randy-----You are using SD techniques that are incompatible with hitting moving targets.

                              Practical shotgun shooters will do pretty good in a SD/HD course, SD shooters will not do well shooting practical targets (moving targets)

                              SD trains a person to shoot a shotgun like a rifle or pistol.......That is a exactly what you don't do when shoot moving targets with a shotgun.

                              Practical can be used successfully for Self Defense , SD can not be used for practical with much success at all.
                              Last edited by Thefeeder; 11-06-2018, 11:34 AM.

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