So I got this Benelli M4...

[bug_eyedmonster]

So... I have been passively looking for a Benelli M4 here. I have a spare RMR laying around, and thought it would be a great add-on. I also have a ton of misc. Nordic parts sitting here too. I owned an M4 previously but I sold it years ago because the stock was too long, and felt it was too heavy compared to the M1. My M1 has been a real beater, so I thought it was time to spread some of the beatings and get an M4 again. CockedandGlocked posted a thread some time ago about pinning the collapsible stock (thank you), which would help with the stock issue. So for months, I've been waiting for one to pop up, and one finally did (thanks Glo3k!). Here is the list of stuff I've assembled for this, anything I'm missing? Can someone please confirm that with these parts, I'm 922(r) compliant before I tear into it?

Benelli OEM collapsible stock (pinned)
Carrier Comp Ti tube (922(r))
Carrier Comp follower/Wolff spring (922(r))
Scalarworks RMR mount
Trijicon RMR
Freedom Fighter Tactical USA handguard (922(r))
Freedom Fighter Tactical bolt knob
GG&G bolt release button
Nordic +1 tube
TTI springs
TTI lifter

**EDIT: Added A&S trigger guard**

Is there anything else I need to be compliant? I was told that I should also be getting a 4th item to complete the 922(r) requirements.
Should I be looking at any other mods? There are reasons for me changing most of this stuff based on previous experience with my other shotguns, but I want to make sure all the known potential issues are covered here. I think my M1 will be taking a back seat to the M4 for the next class/training, and be brought as a back up gun unless the M4 still doesn't fit my liking. Thanks in advance!

Jerry

[Redwoodm4]

[bug_eyedmonster]

I came across one for sale, but the seller was asking $180 shipped... I've been looking at the A&S trigger guard since then. Has anyone here tried one of these?

Jerry

[code_blue]

I am on the side that believes this is a non-922R item because it is readily convertible to "sporting" configuration and not on the ban list. It was imported in complete and legal and you are not building or modifying a banned firearm from imported parts.

However, if you are on the opposite side of that interpretation, here's a guide.

https://freedomfightertactical.com/pages/922r-faq

https://forums.benelliusa.com/showthread.php/26888-Definitive-Thread-on-the-M4-922r-Compliant-Setup

[Bert Gamble]

Get an aftermarket stock. Easy, and no question about pinning.

[L84CABO]

Think you’ll need one more part to be 922r complient. Wish Geissele still made a hammer.

Yup. This ^^^^

If you've opted for the Benelli collapsible stock, then you will need to swap out four of the key parts instead of just three. And to the best of my knowledge, there's no way to get there without using one of FFT's trigger components. Geissele isn't making their hammer anymore (although if I was in this dilemma I'd give them a quick call and see if they happen to have any leftovers lying around the shop. They likely don't but a phone call is easy enough to confirm). And I don't think anyone else is making any of the needed parts.

As an alternative, if you didn't want to mess with the fire control parts, you could opt for a Mesa Tactical stock instead of the Benelli stock and then pick two other parts.

If you're going to go with the FFT fire control parts, I'd jump over to the Benelli forum and see what they're currently saying about those parts. I know there were some problems with them when they first came out but that was quite awhile ago and hopefully FFT has got it resolved.

Good luck!

Edit: My apologies as I wasn't aware that A&S had a trigger guard out. That's great as you at least have more than one option.

[bug_eyedmonster]

Get an aftermarket stock. Easy, and no question about pinning.

Yeah, but that's no fun

I am on the side that believes this is a non-922R item because it is readily convertible to "sporting" configuration and not on the ban list. It was imported in complete and legal and you are not building or modifying a banned firearm from imported parts.

However, if you are on the opposite side of that interpretation, here's a guide.

https://freedomfightertactical.com/pages/922r-faq

https://forums.benelliusa.com/showth...ompliant-Setup

Thank you for that, I've been over the FFT site, but wanted to see if there was more updated info out somewhere, which I have not found yet. The Benelli forums are also not the clearest.

Yup. This ^^^^

If you've opted for the Benelli collapsible stock, then you will need to swap out four of the key parts instead of just three. And to the best of my knowledge, there's no way to get there without using one of FFT's trigger components. Geissele isn't making their hammer anymore (although if I was in this dilemma I'd give them a quick call and see if they happen to have any leftovers lying around the shop. They likely don't but a phone call is easy enough to confirm). And I don't think anyone else is making any of the needed parts.

As an alternative, if you didn't want to mess with the fire control parts, you could opt for a Mesa Tactical stock instead of the Benelli stock and then pick two other parts.

If you're going to go with the FFT fire control parts, I'd jump over to the Benelli forum and see what they're currently saying about those parts. I know there were some problems with them when they first came out but that was quite awhile ago and hopefully FFT has got it resolved.

Good luck!

Edit: My apologies as I wasn't aware that A&S had a trigger guard out. That's great as you at least have more than one option.

I've read that the FFT trigger parts are not the best, which is why I've been looking at the A&S trigger guard. But there is next to zero info out about their product, which makes me a bit worried.

Jerry

[L84CABO]

I've read that the FFT trigger parts are not the best, which is why I've been looking at the A&S trigger guard. But there is next to zero info out about their product, which makes me a bit worried.

Jerry

I've still got a set of FFT's first run hand guards that are complete crap. They've got a 1/4 - 1/2 gap at one end where they're supposed to join flush together. This was common in their early run of the guards but I'd heard they got this resolved in later productions. I was lucky, however, and Geissele was still making their hammer back then so I went with that. I'll take a Geissele part....even it means swapping part of the fire control group...over a FFT part any day of the week. I understand your hesitation. Have you checked over on the Benelli forum for a review of the A&S trigger guard? If anyone has a review of it, they probably do.

I wish you luck. 922R is one of the dumbest laws out there. "Shall not be infringed" and all that.

[bug_eyedmonster]

I've still got a set of FFT's first run hand guards that are complete crap. They've got a 1/4 - 1/2 gap at one end where they're supposed to join flush together. This was common in their early run of the guards but I'd heard they got this resolved in later productions. I was lucky, however, and Geissele was still making their hammer back then so I went with that. I'll take a Geissele part....even it means swapping part of the fire control group...over a FFT part any day of the week. I understand your hesitation. Have you checked over on the Benelli forum for a review of the A&S trigger guard? If anyone has a review of it, they probably do.

I wish you luck. 922R is one of the dumbest laws out there. "Shall not be infringed" and all that.

I received my set in the mail last week, same problem. I'm still in my 10 day wait, so I'm not going to jump to any conclusions before installing them, but this is not a good sign. I sent them an email, and was told:

"The will fit very well when on the gun. The cooling process with our high concentration of glass in the nylon along with the grooves on the side cause them to want to bend outward. On the gun they should fit better than oem."

I've asked about the A&S and read the threads regarding the trigger guard. It seems that there are some mixed reviews, and both of the threads are with the same people. I was hoping someone here also had experiences. If it does work well, I'm going to go this route. There seems to be some safety concerns with the everything related to the trigger, so I'm not sure which route to go.

Jerry

[L84CABO]

I received my set in the mail last week, same problem. I'm still in my 10 day wait, so I'm not going to jump to any conclusions before installing them, but this is not a good sign. I sent them an email, and was told:

"The will fit very well when on the gun. The cooling process with our high concentration of glass in the nylon along with the grooves on the side cause them to want to bend outward. On the gun they should fit better than oem."

I've asked about the A&S and read the threads regarding the trigger guard. It seems that there are some mixed reviews, and both of the threads are with the same people. I was hoping someone here also had experiences. If it does work well, I'm going to go this route. There seems to be some safety concerns with the everything related to the trigger, so I'm not sure which route to go.

Jerry

Are you serious? FFT is still turning out this crap? If it's the same type of gap that I have on mine, I actually was able to get the hand-guards installed. But it literally took me a good 30 minutes to do it. It most certainly did NOT fit better than OEM.

Definitely give them a try though. Maybe they'll go on better than mine did.

[bug_eyedmonster]

Are you serious? FFT is still turning out this crap? If it's the same type of gap that I have on mine, I actually was able to get the hand-guards installed. But it literally took me a good 30 minutes to do it. It most certainly did NOT fit better than OEM.

Definitely give them a try though. Maybe they'll go on better than mine did.

Maybe he meant a TIGHTER fit than OEM, who knows. I'll be picking up sometime next week, so plenty of stuff will go into the overhaul and then off to the range it goes. The TTI springs, safety, lifter, GG&G bolt release, and most of the hardware for the pinning of the stock are in. Hopefully I can get the rest of the stuff in next week and get it all together sooner rather than later.

Jerry

[CandG]

This will be a very cool build! And I'm not just saying that because it'll be almost exactly the same as mine

[bug_eyedmonster]

This will be a very cool build! And I'm not just saying that because it'll be almost exactly the same as mine

I just picked up the shotgun, and realized the only missing item is the CC mag tube along with follower and spring. I got roughly three more months of waiting according to their timeline.

Jerry

[CandG]

I just picked up the shotgun, and realized the only missing item is the CC mag tube along with follower and spring. I got roughly three more months of waiting according to their timeline.

Jerry

I remember that wait well. I did that same 3 month wait 4 years ago

It's worth it, though. As someone else once said about it, "CC does a better job of matching the Benelli finish than Benelli."

It's true... the CC tube is 10x better than the benelli tube, in terms of fit & finish & function. After it arrives and you see it, you'll want to throw your OEM tube in the trash can.

[CandG]

Oh ya, and if you don't already have a heat gun, do yourself a favor and head to Harbor Freight to get one. You'll need it when you take the OEM tube off.