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  • FresnoRob
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 2133

    Yet another Ammo question - Semi Auto -

  • #2
    russ69
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 9348

    If this is for inside the house just use some number 8 loads. All SD loads should be tested in your firearm.
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    • #3
      BTFlyer
      Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 233

      Is it best to stick to a very light bird shot to avoid over penetration in a house/HD situation?

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      • #4
        FresnoRob
        Senior Member
        • May 2013
        • 2133

        Originally posted by russ69
        If this is for inside the house just use some number 8 loads. All SD loads should be tested in your firearm.
        Originally posted by BTFlyer
        Is it best to stick to a very light bird shot to avoid over penetration in a house/HD situation?
        While birdshot may not over penetrate drywall good luck with that through heavy clothing.

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        • #5
          beetle
          The Clip guy
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2009
          • 1677

          the beretta 1301 has a very effective gas system. Mine has cycled everything from low recoil HD rounds to my even even lighter reloads (1oz 1145 fps) clay target rounds with no issues.

          I have the 1301 tactical, so it has a different barrel then your 1301 comp. Still I'm very confident that yours will not have any issues cycling light recoil defense loads. try it and find out.

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          • #6
            newbutold
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2017
            • 1952

            Curious why low-recoil would be needed in a semi-auto?
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            • #7
              russ69
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2009
              • 9348

              Last test I saw low base number 8s went through 4 sheets of drywall and impacted the 5th. Buckshot goes through more than 8 sheets of drywall.
              As I said before always test your defense loads. Modern shotguns seem to handle a wide variety of loads.
              Originally posted by FresnoRob
              While birdshot may not over penetrate drywall good luck with that through heavy clothing.
              At indoor distances, the guy would have to be wearing a ballistic vest to stop a load of number 8s. You can test that if you want. The buckshot you have is still a high base load it's going to have a lot of recoil and a lot of energy.
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              • #8
                FresnoRob
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 2133

                Originally posted by newbutold
                Curious why low-recoil would be needed in a semi-auto?

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                • #9
                  newbutold
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 1952

                  Might be something here that will work:

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                  • #10
                    FresnoRob
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 2133

                    Originally posted by newbutold
                    Might be something here that will work:

                    https://ammoseek.com/ammo/12-gauge?ss=1-Buck
                    Thanks I used that and gunbot.net I may just get some high quality 00.

                    Thanks everyone.

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                    • #11
                      DDscar
                      Member
                      • Nov 2016
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                      • #12
                        ChuckDizzle
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 4398

                        Skip the bird shot, while it is far better than nothing, and still lethal and dangerous, it doesn't often penetrate reliably to the depth necessary to involuntary stop an attacker.

                        The unfortunate reality of projectiles is that any bullet capable of involuntarily stopping an assailant will also penetrate multiple interior walls of the common home.

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                        • #13
                          JagerDog
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2011
                          • 14350

                          Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                          Skip the bird shot, while it is far better than nothing, and still lethal and dangerous, it doesn't often penetrate reliably to the depth necessary to involuntary stop an attacker.

                          The unfortunate reality of projectiles is that any bullet capable of involuntarily stopping an assailant will also penetrate multiple interior walls of the common home.
                          Yup.

                          Stopping the threat ASAP is the goal. Not some guy bleeding out after he returned fire.

                          We need smart bullets.

                          OP, most modern gas guns aren't too finicky in the 1oz and up payload range.

                          Oh..and anyone using the term "high base" surely hasn't kept up with shotshells in the last 30 years.
                          Last edited by JagerDog; 12-02-2017, 11:00 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Bt Doctur
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 471

                            Everytime I was attacked by "drywall perps" I killed them with 00 buck, followed by 4B. No overpenetration there
                            You need to realize that with home defense you are willing and ready to KILL to save yourself and your family. There is no second chance.
                            If you cannot KILL to protect yourself and your family, buy a guard dog.
                            Last edited by Bt Doctur; 12-02-2017, 11:12 AM.

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                            • #15
                              pennstater
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4656

                              Originally posted by JagerDog
                              Yup.

                              Stopping the threat ASAP is the goal. Not some guy bleeding out after he returned fire.

                              We need smart bullets.

                              OP, most modern gas guns aren't too finicky in the 1oz and up payload range.

                              Oh..and anyone using the term "high base" surely hasn't kept up with shotshells in the last 30 years.
                              True that^^^. Especially your last sentence.

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