Good budget semi auto?

[Ducky's Dad]

Since it's picky on ammo, it sounds more like a reason not to get an SA-08.

The SA-08 does not automatically adjust for heavy vs light loads. The Win SX3 does (supposedly) automatically adjust. The Rem 1100 & 11-87 can shoot pretty much anything if properly cleaned and lubed.

[CandG]

Who makes the shotgun that's basically a carbon copy of the M4 but cheaper? I'm drawing a blank right now

[DArBad]

Who makes the shotgun that's basically a carbon copy of the M4 but cheaper? I'm drawing a blank right now

uhmmmmm... the Stoeger M3000 or the Franchi Affinity?? Talking about the " inertia sytem " only not the barrel length and capacity though.

[CandG]

uhmmmmm... the Stoeger M3000 or the Franchi Affinity?? Talking about the " inertia sytem " only not the barrel length and capacity though.

Nope not those (M4 is gas operated, not inertia). I want to say someone copied the M4 completely (or very, very close anyways), right down to the gas system, but it only costs like $1000-$1200 instead of $1800.

Or maybe I'm just not remembering something correctly.

Was it Beretta maybe? Would make sense since it's the same parent company, so no patent issues.

[CandG]

Ah found it, it's the Remington Versa Max Tactical. It's *almost* the same as an M4, I'm not really sure what the differences are. But it costs about 60% the price of an M4

[dwalker]

I love my Versamax, it always works and is super soft shooting.
I also just picked up a 1301 Beretta, and its a nice piece too.

[BOBGBA]

Turners has both on sale - A300 for $660 and V3 for $600.
Traditionally, I've liked the way remingtons fit, so I would probably get the V3.

https://www.turners.com/remington/remington-v3-field-sport-12-ga-280198

https://www.turners.com/beretta/bere...black-1-225639

Update: Remington now has a $100 rebate on the V3, so it's $499 after rebate at Turners.

https://www.remington.com/sites/default/files/rebate/file/DoveDays_LongForm_Shotguns.pdf

[jonny427]

Beretta 1301

This. Love my 1301

[drinktothat421]

Mossberg jm pro 930 for both sport and tactical for a price for 650. Its a great gun

[Horrendo Revolver]

Who makes the shotgun that's basically a carbon copy of the M4 but cheaper? I'm drawing a blank right now

VersaMax and V3 use essintially the same gas system as the M4.

[Horrendo Revolver]

Since it's picky on ammo, it sounds more like a reason not to get an SA-08. The 1100 is probably a better choice and a better gun, even if it gets scratched .

As a rule they are not picky on ammo. Doesn't matter what make, you occasionally get one that's picky.

[smle-man]

I bought an 1187 used in the 90s and have put easily a 1000 rounds through it without a single problem. I recommend them and I see used 1187s for sale on Calguns for $500 or so.

[RedDragon]

Anyone tried CZ autoloading shotties? The MSRPs are surprisingly low, makes me wonder what a used one could be had for...