Remington 870 Quality Questions?

[aippi]

Bought an 870 in 2010 and the park job is a joke. Surface rust from finger prints, poorly fit MIM parts etc. Buy an older 870 or new Mossberg.

That is properly because you did not buy a Parkerized 870. Remington only Parkerizes two shotguns the 870 Police and the 11-87 Police. What you are describing is obviously not a Parkerized finish. No parkerized finish is going to even show finger prints much less show rust from simply touching it. Bet you have an Express Model. And even with that the finish is doing it's job as it is keeping the salt from you hands away from the metal which is exactly what it was designed to do.

What Poorly fit MIM parts. Can you describe the part or name it?

[SunsetIE]

That is properly because you did not buy a Parkerized 870. Remington only Parkerizes two shotguns the 870 Police and the 11-87 Police. What you are describing is obviously not a Parkerized finish. No parkerized finish is going to even show finger prints much less show rust from simply touching it. Bet you have an Express Model. And even with that the finish is doing it's job as it is keeping the salt from you hands away from the metal which is exactly what it was designed to do.

What Poorly fit MIM parts. Can you describe the part or name it?

Bought an express you're correct, but guess what, it is parked. I can tell the differences between blueing and parkerizing, my hunk of junk is parked.

As to the mim parts, the crappy extractor is one of the first things to be mentioned to swap out. My extractor actually broke trying to extract a high brass federal shell.

I see you've parroted that response on other websites, but offer no answer what what the coating "actually is" according to you.

You know what happens when you assume? And yes i know youre from AIPtactical.

[penguin0123]

Bought an 870 field gun in 2010. Worked on on trap field.

No rust problem on the finish.

Chamber did not have burrs.

Extractor was MIM but did not have problems, but I didn't shoot 3" slugs out of it either.

Sometimes, my shell won't eject from chamber, but I'm using 7/8 loads in gunclub hulls. Doesn't do that with 1 or 1 1/8oz loads.

[m16]

Crying about MIM parts, and then calling someone else a parrot. That's rich.

Post a pic of this broken extractor, if you can't then you are the worst kind of parrot.

If all of these "MIM" haters actually knew how many of their guns had MIM parts, they would probably crap Twinkies and have a massive coronary.

[SunsetIE]

Crying about MIM parts, and then calling someone else a parrot. That's rich.

Post a pic of this broken extractor, if you can't then you are the worst kind of parrot.

If all of these "MIM" haters actually knew how many of their guns had MIM parts, they would probably crap Twinkies and have a massive coronary.

Crying? More like wary of a crappy product due to experience, but I guess that makes me a mim hater!

Dont have a pic of the broken extractor, flame me if you wish. I dont happen to take pics of every little thing like some people who post here.

I also had issues with the magazine spring binding (not ejecting) and the flimsy stock follower hanging up. Replaced with Wilson combat spring and follower and havent had a hang up since.


MIM has its place as long as the quality is up to par, and we all know Remingtons quality is NOT what it used to be. Hell Ive got an HK with a PLASTIC hammer, and I payed 3x as much for that gun as my 870.

[snowdog650]

OP ... I have a newer (maybe 2 or 3 years old) plain-Jane 870 Express Tactical with the extended mag tube from the factory. All I have done is swap out the furniture with the Hogue 12" LOP set and I polished the chamber with a drill and steel wool.

I've taken 5 or 6 tactical shotgun classes with this shotgun and have shot 800+ shells of varying size, load, and brand over 3- and 4-day courses ... and probably have about 3000 shells through the gun total.

Never an issue ... never a FTE, FTF, or anything else. Only real issue is repeatedly burning my fingers during high-volume fire ... my problem, not the 870's.

I'd like an AI&P one day ... but until then, my 870 suits me just fine, even with a polymer trigger guard.

[Sauermonkey]

Bought an express you're correct, but guess what, it is parked. I can tell the differences between blueing and parkerizing, my hunk of junk is parked.

As to the mim parts, the crappy extractor is one of the first things to be mentioned to swap out. My extractor actually broke trying to extract a high brass federal shell.

I see you've parroted that response on other websites, but offer no answer what what the coating "actually is" according to you.

You know what happens when you assume?

Can you post a picture of this parkerized express 870. The express uses a sandblasted matte blue finish that looks like parkerizing but rusts easily im not saying that you dont have a parkerized 870 express but i have just never seen one.

[SunsetIE]

Can you post a picture of this parkerized express 870. The express uses a sandblasted matte blue finish that looks like parkerizing but rusts easily im not saying that you dont have a parkerized 870 express but i have just never seen one.

when i get home later and dig out of the safe sure. Dont shoot it much since it likes to rust. It looks like a piss poor job, spotty all over.

[Chameleon Loco]

I have an 870 super mag that needed to be broke in after I bought it. Now it runs fine I also bought an 870 police magnum trade in that I think was made after the change in ownership and it runs perfect.

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[aippi]

The matte finish Express is an applied finish and was designed to look like Parkerizing. You must have bought a used one that someone parkerized. If that is the case you can be blaming Remington. It is either that or that you can't tell a matte finish from Parkerized. So, let me tell you how to from a distance. Look at the sight bases and if you see a gold color bead between the base and the barrel that is a Parkerized barrel. You are seeing the braising which will not accept the Parkerizing process. If there is not gold color bead there then it is an Express Barrel.

[-hanko]

Can you post a picture of this parkerized express 870. The express uses a sandblasted matte blue finish that looks like parkerizing but rusts easily im not saying that you dont have a parkerized 870 express but i have just never seen one.

The finish on an express is not parkerized, as has been posted. It appears to be regular black oxide (kind of a standard finish on some fasteners). It is not a corrosion-resistant finish like parkerizing. 2 different animals.
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The matte finish Express is an applied finish and was designed to look like Parkerizing. You must have bought a used one that someone parkerized. If that is the case you can be blaming Remington. It is either that or that you can't tell a matte finish from Parkerized. So, let me tell you how to from a distance. Look at the sight bases and if you see a gold color bead between the base and the barrel that is a Parkerized barrel. You are seeing the braising which will not accept the Parkerizing process. If there is not gold color bead there then it is an Express Barrel.

[Horrendo Revolver]

We always have a bunch of 870 Expresses in stock where I work. As mentioned before they are prone to surface rust. Some of them have small amounts of rust when taken out of the box the first time. They work just fine though. As was mentioned too if you will rub down the metal with oil you won't have a rust issue. Do it until the parkerizing quits absorbing the oil.

[aippi]

If you have a problem with parts then don't buy an 870 as they all have MIM parts, every single one of them no matter if it is a Police, Wingmaster, Express or Marine.

Also just about every gun you have bought in the past 15 years does also.

Also, stop driving your car and buy a horse because most of your break parts are MIM. And for goodness sake don't fly because the blades in those Jet Engines and many of the other parts are MIM.

[jyo]

As mentioned above, the finish on Express shotguns is NOT parkerized---it's some sort of matte finish---and yes, it does rust quite easily---keep it coated with oil or a rust preventive product.
I'm not able to comment on the newer 870s as my three are much older blued guns (even my 870P is a polished and blued shotgun)---of course, they function just fine with any ammo I have tried...

[Pessimist]

I have an 870 Super Mag that is full camo. No problems with function or finish. Have about 400-500 rounds through it so far, some on clays and some dove hunting.