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  • soulfresh
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 672

    over under shotgun differences?

    So I'm not going to ask which is better cause it is subjective. What I have read and understand from most sporting shooters is that there are "levels" roughly

    level1
    beretta 68- line
    browning citori
    winchester 101

    level2
    CG
    blaser

    level3
    K & P

    Are there significant features/differences that warrant the price jump?
  • #2
    AAShooter
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2010
    • 7188

    What are you planning to use the gun for? There seem to be a large number of over/unders that aren't on your list, especially in the higher levels. Also there is a probably a level zero with a selection as well.

    Often as you go up in cost, the durability, fit and finish improve. Things like fancy wood stocks, engraving and gold inlays can dramatically increase the cost of the gun but have little impact on its functionality.

    Also, customer service may improve with higher end suppliers when/if you have problems.

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    • #3
      ysr_racer
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 12014

      You get to point of diminishing returns. Is a $5000 shotgun better than a $2500 one, probably. Is it twice as good, probably not.

      For the average shooter any of the Browning 725s or Beretta 69x guns will out last them.

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      • #4
        Munny$hot
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 3665

        Get a good brand name rig that fits you correctly, has a smooth action/trigger, swings well for you and don't worry about which is better because its prettier.
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        • #5
          John Joseph
          Banned
          • Jan 2014
          • 789

          How often do you intend to shoot it? Trap guns can go through several thousand rounds a year---they are built to handle it without shooting loose. A hunting gun may never shoot that many rounds in it's entire life and is built accordingly.
          Thus, the price difference.
          I went with a Spanish Lanber---originally a $1300 gun closed out (at CDNN and Cabela's) for $700. Not because it was $700, but because it was originally $1300 gun. Sometimes you can find deals like that. That said, it will never be worth what a Beretta would be worth but as a shooter, it is every bit as desirable (and I used to have a 686.)

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          • #6
            soulfresh
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 672

            i plan on shooting trap, sporting clays, skeet etc. probably getting a 12ga 30'' is what i want at the moment. i want to get something that lasts and possibly past down. didnt want to spend more than 3-4k. I have shot several o/u but never owned one.

            what model/brand would be good for reliability as well as customer service? what makes which o/u more durable?
            i was considering beretta but read many bad things about their customer service. also considering a CG. obviously i would pick the one that i shoot better with but i don't know all the nuts an bolts mechanically or if its just a marketing ploy.

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            • #7
              Erick Danielsen
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 546

              Tagged. I'm in the market for an O/U in the $1K range primarily for trap.

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              • #8
                AAShooter
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2010
                • 7188

                Originally posted by Erick Danielsen
                Tagged. I'm in the market for an O/U in the $1K range primarily for trap.
                That is going to be a tough order for a name-brand gun. Might want to look on the used market.

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                • #9
                  AAShooter
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2010
                  • 7188

                  Originally posted by ysr_racer
                  You get to point of diminishing returns. Is a $5000 shotgun better than a $2500 one, probably. Is it twice as good, probably not.

                  For the average shooter any of the Browning 725s or Beretta 69x guns will out last them.
                  Good advice. It is kinda like wine. As the price goes up the tend to get better but 2X in price doesn't get you a wine twice as good. Even if you can afford the $500 bottle wine, doesn't mean it will met your individual preferences for a delightful experience.

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                  • #10
                    RedFord150
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 5665

                    $1K is tight for an O/U. I think $1.5K to $2K gives you a lot of options.

                    Visit Pacific Sporting Arms in Azusa and talk to John (the owner). 15 minutes with him will teach you more than 10 pages of replies on this thread.

                    Good luck.
                    God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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                    • #11
                      XVIga_Rob
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 2354

                      Originally posted by soulfresh
                      i plan on shooting trap, sporting clays, skeet etc. probably getting a 12ga 30'' is what i want at the moment. i want to get something that lasts and possibly past down. didnt want to spend more than 3-4k. I have shot several o/u but never owned one.

                      what model/brand would be good for reliability as well as customer service? what makes which o/u more durable?
                      i was considering beretta but read many bad things about their customer service. also considering a CG. obviously i would pick the one that i shoot better with but i don't know all the nuts an bolts mechanically or if its just a marketing ploy.
                      I was at this cross road last year. Been shooting a Wingmaster for many years. It's a great gun, just wanted something more. I looked at and handled many different guns/versions of guns, that were in my price range. I quickly narrowed my choice down to either the Browning 725 or Beretta 686. I bought the Beretta 686 Silver Piegon 1 Sporting with 32" barrels at Sporstmans for $1899.

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                      • #12
                        RayPDA
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 909

                        I'll play -

                        Can someone tell be the differences in O/U action designs; what about the pros and cons of Greener (DT-10) versus monoblocs (CG, 686), the K32, etc.?

                        What about removable trigger groups, rebuilds, fitting new/additonal barrels?
                        Last edited by RayPDA; 10-26-2015, 3:59 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Erick Danielsen
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 546

                          Thanks for the feedback guys. Any opinions on these sub $1K O/U's like the CZ Redhead or Dickinson guns?

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                          • #14
                            AAShooter
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2010
                            • 7188

                            I have no interest in either but have friends who are very happy with the CZ Redhead.

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                            • #15
                              anti
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 2098

                              If you want a serious target gun then I wouldn't get a CZ - AFAIK they don't even make a target double gun. I shoot 10 - 14 rounds of int'l trap every week and my Miroku has held up for a long time. Soon I'll have a Beretta SO4 Trap to replace it but I'll never sell my Miroku.



                              My gun is mainly found in the European market since international trap isn't very popular here in the US.
                              Last edited by anti; 10-26-2015, 7:45 PM.
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