Need Trap Shotgun recomendations, Got it!

[bruceflinch]

I have a shoulder issue. I want to get a 12 or 20 ga semi-auto shotgun for Trap, that won't leave me sore. No more pumps or single shots for me.

Suggestions please? $500-1000 is my budget.

[wjc]

Beretta

Fairly inexpensive, fast, lightweight, and easy to shoot and maintain.

I have an AL391 Ulrika in 12 guage that I use for trap/skeet and hunting.

I checked out an A400 XPLOR and it was even better handling.

[Jules]

Yes, you should be able to find a used Beretta 390 or 391 for the upper end of your budget. If they're taken care of, they'll last you a long, long time. My 390 has had a fair amount of work done to it, and it kicks slightly more than the 391 that I compete with. Most of that is due to fit, and I like a rollover comb, which my competition gun has.

That said, there are a number of recoil reducing devices that you can install to mitigate recoil on an OU or to practically eliminate it on an auto. Precision Fit Stocks do that too, but most of those are going to be over your budget on their own.

Don't waste your time with a 20 gauge for trap. Most of those are lighter weight guns, and the felt recoil is going to be more than a light load 12 gauge.

[seebogo]

A300 outlander synthetic

[hk91666]

Condor competition ported barrels etc..500 to 600

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[BOBGBA]

Remington VersaMAax

[Ducky's Dad]

A 20 gauge is fine for trap, as long as you are not shooting competitively. A Remington 1100 is perhaps the softest shooting semi of all time, and is well within your budget. There are lots of them out there in 12 gauge with 30" full choke barrels, and extra barrels are easy to find.

[Jules]

You know, you're right, Ducky's Dad. A 20 gauge would be just fine for casual shooting. I do compete, and my brain gets stuck in that track.

I do also see a fair number of people shooting 1100 Trap models, with the synthetic adjustable stocks, and they seem to like them a lot. I haven't picked one of those up, but our hunting 1100 is fairly soft shooting too.

[Ducky's Dad]

IF OP decides he likes the idea of an 1100 in 20 gauge but wants a heavier gun to absorb some additional recoil, just get an older 1100 20ga on the 12ga frame. From the Remington website:

The Model 1100 20 gauge has gone through a transformation since it's introduction in 1964.
It originally was designed off of a full size 12 gauge frame. Lighter wood and eventually a lighter frame design was developed and is still in production today.

The following may help you identify which version you have:
Last letter of serial number Frame Size
X = 20 ga. Full size frame 20 ga-Standard size 2" frame/receiver
N = 20 ga. magnum Full size frame 20 ga magnum-Standard size 3" frame/receiver
K = 20 ga. lightweight Full size frame 20 ga-Pre-1977 2" frame/receiver (LW)

I have an original 870 Wingmaster 20ga on the 12ga frame, and it fits and feels just like a 12ga, but easier to mount and swing, weight toward the rear compared to the small frame guns. OP can always add weight to the mag cap or mag tube to adjust the balance if necessary.

[RayPDA]

Remington 1100 competition synthetic.

You can also put together something close with a stock 1100 and a ken Rucker bump buster/jack west stock:

http://bumpbuster.blogspot.com/2011/01/jack-west-pro-combo-stock-set.html?m=1

[JagerDog]

I'm not an 1100 fan namely because I like bird guns and 1100's don't swing like bird guns. But for a soft shooting trap gun where "feel" means little, they are great prospects for what you're looking for.

[Shawndiver]

Another vote for Beretta A300 Outlander. Lightweight, light recoil. I've been shooting 8 - 10 rounds of trap or skeet every week for almost two years, and it has been flawless shooting $5 a box Walmart ammo.

[dpop24]

Start reloading and make yourself some 7/8 oz powderpuff loads.

[Pauliedad]

Tag for spend some dough.

[hk91666]

I own both the Stoeger Condor Competition and the Remington 1100 Synthetic in 12 ga. Not sure if either of them is made in 20 ga but don't think that's a necessary option because both guns have very low felt recoil shooting standard #7.5 or 8 target loads between 1200-1325 fps.

I prefer the Condor because it is an over/under and offers the best value for the money. It's ported, comes with 8 chokes and an adjustable comb. I spent an additional $150 to get it fitted and to add a Kick-eez pad and bought an additional set of Briley chokes because the OEM chokes did not pattern to my liking.

The Remington 1100 Synthetic is a fine gun but costs twice at much as a Condor; current street price is around $1k but you might be able to find one for less. I comes with a very nice synthetic stock, an adjustable comb and an adjustable butt plate assembly w/3 different spring options and 3 chokes. I bought additional Briley chokes for this gun and had it fitted as well.

Both guns are extremely reliable and accurate. The 1100 is heavy (seemingly much heavier than the Condor even though the specs suggest otherwise) and has very low felt recoil which can be attributed to its weight and the fancy recoil pad assembly. That said, the Condor w/the Kick-eez butt pad also has very little felt recoil.

Both guns have 30" barrels but because of the different types of receivers, the Remington is much longer assembled than the Condor. I have to use a full sized rifle case to carry it in but can use a smaller more compact breakdown case for the Condor. I also have to store the Remington in the back of my safe w/2 shelf cutouts, while I can put the Condor anywhere inside the safe. The only thing I don't like about the Condor is the relatively soft walnut that is used for the stock, which dents and dings quite easily.

So, the choice basically comes down to whether you prefer an O/U or Semi and the total cost of the guns w/ or w/o the extras that I paid for. You really can't go wrong with either. However, since I prefer the Condor, the Remington seldom leaves the safe.

The condor competition comes in 12 and 20 ga. I like mine because it has a lh option stock. Recoil is very light with target loads.

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