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  • LeadSlinger585
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 974

    Defensive Use Shotguns for Lefties

    No, not liberals. For left eye dominant folks.

    Is there any reason to seek out a left handed pump shotgun (over a cheaper RH shotgun) for the purpose of self-defense?

    EDIT:

    Folks - thank you for all the different brand/manufacture recommendations. However, my question is not, "what brand should I buy", but rather, what handiness should I buy?

    Thank you,
    LS585
    Last edited by LeadSlinger585; 03-21-2015, 11:08 AM.
  • #2
    aippi
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 2302

    There is no real option for this with the Remington 870 as the only left handed 870 comes with a 28" Vent Rib Barrel. However, there is a Right hand Eject Left Hand Trigger plate assembly for the 12ga 870. This means any right hand 870 can be used as this trigger plate assembly has the safety set up for a left hand shooter. There is no issue shooting the right had eject shotgun left hand because the empty shell is headed to the ground as soon as it leaves the ejection port.

    The Mossberg has the safety on top of the receiver so is often preferred by left hand shooters for that reason.
    Last edited by aippi; 03-20-2015, 9:12 PM.
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    • #3
      fffblackmage
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 55

      If you were left handed and left eye dominant, I would figure that's all the reason you'd need to just go with a left-handed gun.

      I'm right handed, but an instructor did this strange test (though it made sense afterwards) and said I was left-eye dominant. I tried shooting some clays holding my shotgun left-handed for fun one time, and it just didn't really work out very well. I felt just clumsy and awkward, not to mention I missed all my targets.

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      • #4
        LeadSlinger585
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 974

        Aippi, the safety (to me) is not a big issue. The Mossberg is what I am considering, and left hand bird guns can be retrofitted (albeit expensively) to be a defensive shotgun.

        The issue I'm looking at are the sidesaddle, the loading port, and interfacing of the two as a southpaw. It's been worked around for years, I know, but does a left side loading port justify the extra $130 expense? See: LH Mossberg 500 Tac and RH Mossberg 500 Tac

        Originally posted by fffblackmage
        If you were left handed and left eye dominant, I would figure that's all the reason you'd need to just go with a left-handed gun.
        In a bolt gun, sure. Not so (in my experience) with semi-auto long guns and pistols.
        Last edited by LeadSlinger585; 03-20-2015, 10:20 PM. Reason: Editing URL formats, grammar

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        • #5
          TripleThreat
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2012
          • 2639

          Mossberg 500 or better yet a 590. I feel it's a much better weapon than the 870, not only for the placement of the safety (top center, thumb activated vs trigger finger activated on the right side of the weapon on the 870).

          Hope this helps,

          Triple
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          • #6
            fitit
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 173

            At first I didn't like the moss berg safety, but I think having it on the top is great now! I can shoot it left or right handed. In Home defense situations, the breach is more likely near your hip, not near your face.

            Also, the new Mossberg tactical 30-30 has the same top safety...check it out.
            Thanks

            fitit

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            • #7
              Steve_In_29
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 5682

              Look for a Steven's 350. It is a clone of the Ithaca37 with bottom feed/eject. Well made shotgun and backed by Savage.

              I bought one each for my son and grandson and have been very impressed with them. My son is a leftie so it worked out great for him.

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              • #8
                fitit
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 173

                Steve in 29
                have a video or picture of the feed eject?
                Thanks

                fitit

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                • #9
                  ChrisBrooklyn
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1308

                  Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                  Look for a Steven's 350. It is a clone of the Ithaca37 with bottom feed/eject. Well made shotgun and backed by Savage.

                  I bought one each for my son and grandson and have been very impressed with them. My son is a leftie so it worked out great for him.
                  better yet find an old ithaca, i know i would love one

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                  • #10
                    aippi
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2302

                    Originally posted by TripleThreat
                    Mossberg 500 or better yet a 590. I feel it's a much better weapon than the 870, not only for the placement of the safety (top center, thumb activated vs trigger finger activated on the right side of the weapon on the 870).

                    Hope this helps,

                    Triple
                    The Mossberg is simply a Remington 31 with a couple of modifications. In 1950 Remington elected to go with the new 870 over the 31 and abandoned the 31 because the 870 was a superior design. The patent laid dormant for 10 years so Mossberg picked it up in 1960. Remington must have made the right choice because he we are 10 Million + 870's later. It you would be more accurate to state simply that you prefer the Mossberg over the 870 as for you that would be a 100% true statement. Claiming it is a much better weapon is subjective. I have a 590 and would never hesitate to take it to a fight if my 870 was not available.
                    JD McGuire, Owner
                    AI&P Tactical
                    Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
                    Mossberg LE Armorer
                    www.aiptactical.com
                    www.tacticalgunslings.com
                    If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.

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                    • #11
                      Barbarossa
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4436

                      I hunt with a few lefties, and they like the BPS, as it is bottom eject.

                      I wouldn't worry about speed loading unless it's for competition.

                      Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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                      • #12
                        aippi
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2302

                        Originally posted by LeadSlinger585
                        Aippi, the safety (to me) is not a big issue. The Mossberg is what I am considering, and left hand bird guns can be retrofitted (albeit expensively) to be a defensive shotgun.

                        The issue I'm looking at are the sidesaddle, the loading port, and interfacing of the two as a southpaw. It's been worked around for years, I know, but does a left side loading port justify the extra $130 expense? See: LH Mossberg 500 Tac and RH Mossberg 500 Tac



                        In a bolt gun, sure. Not so (in my experience) with semi-auto long guns and pistols.
                        I was not even aware Mossberg made that gun. They should make it in the 590. They will corner the market even with the 500 version. Shows they care about what shooters need and want. Remington will not even make a left hand 870 barrel other then the 28" VR BS. They show no interest in making a defense gun for left hand shooters. Of course you can turn the Left hand 870 into something like this.

                        Last edited by aippi; 11-12-2015, 8:30 AM.
                        JD McGuire, Owner
                        AI&P Tactical
                        Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
                        Mossberg LE Armorer
                        www.aiptactical.com
                        www.tacticalgunslings.com
                        If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.

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                        • #13
                          cindynles
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2806

                          Bottom feed / eject Ithaca 37 is a great lefty shotgun. You can buy a new one from the "new" Ithaca Gun Company, or you can pick up an older used one pretty cheap. I wind up buying used 37's all the time when I find them in one of the local gun stores. I think the most I've paid was $350.

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                          • #14
                            DArBad
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 3002

                            Originally posted by LeadSlinger585
                            Aippi, the safety (to me) is not a big issue. The Mossberg is what I am considering, and left hand bird guns can be retrofitted (albeit expensively) to be a defensive shotgun.

                            The issue I'm looking at are the sidesaddle, the loading port, and interfacing of the two as a southpaw. It's been worked around for years, I know, but does a left side loading port justify the extra $130 expense? See: LH Mossberg 500 Tac and [url=http://www.mossberg.com/product/shotguns-pump-action-mossberg-500-tactical-500-tactical-6-shot/50420]RH Mossberg 5s.
                            Like aippi, I didn't know such an animal exist in the Mossberg lineup.

                            Does it justify the higher price?........only YOU can answer that.

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                            • #15
                              kilrain
                              Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 271

                              Originally posted by aippi
                              The Mossberg is simply a Remington 31 with a couple of modifications. In 1950 Remington elected to go with the new 870 over the 31 and abandoned the 31 because the 870 was a superior design. The patent laid dormant for 10 years so Mossberg picked it up in 1960. Remington must have made the right choice because he we are 10 Million + 870's later. It you would be more accurate to state simply that you prefer the Mossberg over the 870 as for you that would be a 100% true statement. Claiming it is a much better weapon is subjective. I have a 590 and would never hesitate to take it to a fight if my 870 was not available.
                              Remington designed and built the 870 because it was cheaper and simpler to manufacture than the Model 31, yet just as robust as the Winchester Model 12 which pretty much owned the market at the time, not because the 870 was a superior design from a functional standpoint.

                              I agree that one being better than the other, 500/590 or 870, is pretty subjective.

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