Which CZ 455?

[Dozer94]

With a dilemma like this you'd better buy both, shoot the American scoped and get an Ultra Lux for strictly irons.

^ I like the way you think!

I put a Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40 AO on my 455 VPT and really like it. Surprising how crisp and clear the glass and reticle are through the full range of magnification. The adjustable objective is great for plinking small objects or trying to stack rounds on paper. And the service and warranty with Vortex is outstanding. My other rimfire scopes are Nikon Prostaff, which for the money are tough to beat.

^ I have that same Vortex DB on my 453 Varmint and I am happy with it also. Great scope for the money.

[bcsquare]

With a dilemma like this you'd better buy both, shoot the American scoped and get an Ultra Lux for strictly irons.

^^This is sound advice!

I used Warne rings with a Nikon ProStaff Rimfire 3-9x40 on my 455 Varmint. I don't think you can go wrong either way you choose.

[skohl]

Scope for CZ

You might look at Sightron scopes. They have the S1 4-12x40 with AO for less than $150.00. I have one and like it better than a Vortex Crossfire 4-12x50 or a Prostaff - 3-9, which I also own. Sharper image and easier to get a good sight picture. Sightron doesn't get a lot of press on websites like this, but I've been impressed. Another offering is their 3.5-10x50 for around $140.00

[cusco19]

skohl: I'll be shooting from the bench at 50 & mostly 100 yards range. Does sightron have one with 16x zoom or higher?


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[Jarhead]

Varmint

[cusco19]

Jarhead, yup... That's what I ended up buying.


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[Jaytil]

What is your budget for the glass? Will you be shooting for groups at those distances? Any plans to hunt with it?

[Mayor McRifle]

^^This is sound advice!

I used Warne rings with a Nikon ProStaff Rimfire 3-9x40 on my 455 Varmint. I don't think you can go wrong either way you choose.

I have the exact same set up. I had to use the high rings, though, as the bolt handle/knob hit the scope with the medium rings.

[cusco19]

I don't plan to hunt.. Yet... But will be shooting from bench most off the time. I went with Vortex Crossfire II 44 AO. I got both BKL and Warne High rings ordered. Mistake on my part thinking the BKL will get here sooner than Warne's ring.


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[johnjacobschmidt]

From what I have read here and other places the 452 is the gun to have. The 455 is hit/miss with regards to problems and accuracy.

[FeuerFrei]

I have the exact same set up. I had to use the high rings, though, as the bolt handle/knob hit the scope with the medium rings.

Agreed.
My 452 in 17HMR is a great rifle but the bolt handle is too short to manipulate quickly and the clearance to scope is too tight.
I really wish these babies had a longer bolt handle.
Otherwise it is still a great piece of work for varmints and plinking etc..

[small hole shooter]

I bought my 452 off another member last year. Love the CZ. I have a Redfield Revenge in 6x18x44 AO that I got as a present the will be installed after I have fun shooting with iron sights.

[rogervzv]

From what I have read here and other places the 452 is the gun to have. The 455 is hit/miss with regards to problems and accuracy.

Not so. An internet myth based upon the "old guns are better than the new guns" mantra.

I have both a 452 Ultralux and a 455 American. Fit and finish are the same, which is to say quite good. In my opinion if you are going to scope the rifle you will be better off with the American as there is little point in the longer barrel of the Ultralux if you are going to scope it. I scoped mine anyway and it shoots fine, but no better than my handier American.

As others here have noted, when you scope a bolt gun you need to ensure that the scope rings are clear of the bolt action cycle. It sucks to get the whole thing all assembled with scope and bolt rings and then discover that your bolt action hits the rings. Ask me how I know.

You won't go wrong with a 452 or a 455. By the way, the Ruger American Rimfire is quite competitive with the CZs in terms of fit, finish, and accuracy. No wood stock though.

[as_rocketman]

From what I have read here and other places the 452 is the gun to have. The 455 is hit/miss with regards to problems and accuracy.

Not so. An internet myth based upon the "old guns are better than the new guns" mantra.

Concur that it's a myth. I have a CZ 452 Varmint, and I've had scores of 452's and 455's (mostly Lux and Trainers) on my line at Appleseed. I've seen no evidence of a quality difference between the generations.

The major difference between the 452 and 455 is that the previous generation has a traditional threaded barrel, whereas the 455's barrel is pinned via set screws. This allows the 455 to more easily change barrels, change chambering, etc. at the cost of being one more thing for the user to screw up. Personally this is a feature that I don't use -- instead of one rifle with two barrels, I'd rather have two rifles -- but it's popular, especially in these days of ammunition scarcity.

Making sure the bolt handle clears a scope is important for many rifles, and this one's no different. I have a Weaver K4 and CZ standard rings, and it clears... but it's closer than I'd like. This is not a rifle for extra-low rings "just because."

The longer barrel of the Ultra Lux and Trainer, as far as I can tell, does little other than amplify mistakes in your trigger pull (which is a good goal for a trainer rifle!). Of course, you may like the way they balance, or how the larger polar moment slows down your natural oscillation, particularly in standing position.

My Varmint, with its not-terribly-light scope, is roughly the same size and weight as my M1 Garand... the stock even fits an M1 Garand pouch sleeve. Length of pull is a bit longer, though.

Regarding length of the bolt handle, there have been times I wished for a longer one. However, it's only been an issue in fast stages. Going at normal rates it hasn't been a problem for me. It is a short stroke, obviously. You shouldn't have any concerns at all if shooting with iron sights.

[Kiba]

Agreed.
My 452 in 17HMR is a great rifle but the bolt handle is too short to manipulate quickly and the clearance to scope is too tight.
I really wish these babies had a longer bolt handle.
Otherwise it is still a great piece of work for varmints and plinking etc..

100% agreed, the stock CZ455 bolt handle is a pain if the rifle is scoped. It's too darn short and you end up whacking your finger on the scope. Luckily, there's a fix for the CZ 455 bolt handles; unfortunately it isn't as easy or cheap as say a Sako Quad where you can simply unscrew and replace the bolt handle.

Here's my buddies CZ 455 VPT in .17hmr ready for ground squirrel duty. Scope is a Premier Reticles 3-15, base and rings are Murphy Precision. Stockdoc added the KMW cheekrest hardware to the stock and elgordo2 off Sniper's Hide did the bolt knob modification (you can sign up over there and check the rimfire section for pics and contact info, he offers multiple styles of bolt knobs.) Elgordo2 did a fantastic job on the extended knob and blending work into the original bolt handle and turned it around very quickly.

With the new extended bolt knob not only is the bolt super smooth and easy to run because of the added leverage but you no longer knock your finger on the scope every time you run the bolt.

Link to the CZ 455 bolt knob mod thread over on Sniper's Hide: http://snipershide.scout.com/forums/...installs?s=541