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  • #16
    Chunky_lover
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1938

    Originally posted by Neanderthal
    An officer once told me that it falls under "constructive possession". If the gun is capable of firing center fire with a bolt swap then it is still going to be ruled as modified center fire gun, even if it holds a conversion bolt.
    this is why officers dont have the final decision, if needed talk to a superior or go talk to a judge

    if it can chamber, and fire a rimfire then its a rim fire rifle and does not need a mag lock

    you cant even place a centerfire mag inside the magwell as the rimfire bolt wont allow it without causing damage

    and if you want to play it safe just take one of those crappy cable gun locks were forced to buy for every handgun and thread it through the centerfire bolt carrier

    then there is no way you could accidentally insert into the ar, that is if you bring it with you to use later in the day

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    • #17
      junior40er
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 3315

      Originally posted by Chunky_lover

      LOL **** this state.
      Visit my Channel "Steel On Target" on YouTube and subscribe. I post gun videos reg regularly.

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      • #18
        Chunky_lover
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1938

        got to think outside the box sometimes
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        • #19
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by G21Shooter
          Rimfire firearms rifles are exempt from the CA AWB, period. Keep your .22 lr bolt in the gun, its a .22 lr.

          Just to be safe keep the 5.56 BCG and bullet button eparate from the gun.
          Correction.
          CA assault weapons laws for semi-auto rifles does not apply to rimfire rifles.
          CA assault weapons laws for semi-auto pistols applies to rimfire handguns.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #20
            dfletcher
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2006
            • 14806

            Just a suggestion - buy a dedicated rimfire upper. Not for legal reasons, but they in general shoot better than the drop in kits.
            GOA Member & SAF Life Member

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            • #21
              G21Shooter
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 3577

              Originally posted by dfletcher
              Just a suggestion - buy a dedicated rimfire upper. Not for legal reasons, but they in general shoot better than the drop in kits.
              I have to agree with this. My CMMG .22 lr upper was one of the best $500 spent on anything shooting related. Reliable, accurate, and one of the funnest guns to shoot I own.

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              • #22
                Eljay
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4985

                Same here, although until I got the taccom reliability kit it was hard to find any ammo that ran at all in it (Remington subsonic of all things) and after running a brick of that it's been a real champ. I'm not sure how many rounds I've put through it but it's thousands.

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                • #23
                  G21Shooter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 3577

                  I run the Taccom firing pin and pressure plug in mine. After about the 2000 round mark, it eats any ammo I try with zero malfunctions. Likes to be cleaned and relubed every 500 rounds.
                  Last edited by G21Shooter; 01-27-2015, 3:22 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 19066

                    I switch between 5.56 and .22LR. I keep the bullet button on as I don't want to make a mistake nor garner unwanted attention from less than knowledgeable LEO's.

                    I also use 10 round mags for the same reasons. Get into the habit and it's not a big deal. Questions from cops are always a big deal.

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                    • #25
                      whipkiller
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3461

                      Headaches like this are why I just bought a 15-22!
                      Too many hobbies, Too little time.

                      Mind you, I'm 5'7", 180, with a visible Ab...

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                      • #26
                        G21Shooter
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3577

                        Originally posted by whipkiller
                        Headaches like this are why I just bought a 15-22!
                        There are no headaches. Rimfire ARs don't need bullet buttons, it's that simple.

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                        • #27
                          MotoriousRacing
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 1971

                          Originally posted by dfletcher
                          Just a suggestion - buy a dedicated rimfire upper. Not for legal reasons, but they in general shoot better than the drop in kits.
                          Originally posted by G21Shooter
                          I have to agree with this. My CMMG .22 lr upper was one of the best $500 spent on anything shooting related. Reliable, accurate, and one of the funnest guns to shoot I own.
                          Thanks! I was thinking about asking this question a few days ago, .22 lr bolt swap vs. complete upper swap, and the answer was just presented.

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                          • #28
                            MotoriousRacing
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1971

                            Originally posted by G21Shooter
                            There are no headaches. Rimfire ARs don't need bullet buttons, it's that simple.
                            The point is, what if you plan to switch calibers at the range?

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                            • #29
                              Quiet
                              retired Goon
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 30242

                              Originally posted by MotoriousRacing
                              The point is, what if you plan to switch calibers at the range?
                              Follow steps:
                              1. Install maglock.
                              2. Switch to centerfire caliber.
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                              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                              • #30
                                whipkiller
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3461

                                Originally posted by G21Shooter
                                There are no headaches. Rimfire ARs don't need bullet buttons, it's that simple.
                                If it were "that simple", this thread would not exist.

                                I guess I've always kinda' just preferred to have dedicated guns rather than switching parts back and forth.

                                It's a good idea in theory, but more trouble than it's worth to me. Rather than buying & switching bolts, uppers, etc. I just bought the 15-22.

                                Besides, I think it's kinda' cruel to a gun to take a BB off & on, off & on... It's like a dog that loves to run free and then putting a leash on them, they get that sad look.

                                The Kadet kit seems like a neat idea for my CZ, but I bought a Buck Mark for less $ and I don't have to switch parts back and forth.

                                I would rather spend that time loading mags, not swapping parts. Plus, it's a good excuse to buy another gun!

                                YMMV, whatever works.
                                Too many hobbies, Too little time.

                                Mind you, I'm 5'7", 180, with a visible Ab...

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