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  • #16
    rromeo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 6981

    Originally posted by sohappy
    The glenfield squirrel model? Hard to find those these days for a fair price.
    I paid $70 two years ago. They're usually around here in pawn shops for a $100-150.
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    • #17
      ersatz
      Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 329

      Originally posted by cold100onhw1
      I have a 795 and wish I had gotten a 60. It would be nice not keeping track of the mags and not have it sticking out of the gun when hunting.
      This. I dislike how the mag on the 795 likes to get snagged on things. May not be an issue for you but I prefer a flush stock.
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      • #18
        TMB 1
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7153

        I think I'd really like a 795 if they made a M1 Carbine look alike stock for them.
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        • #19
          mrfat
          Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 208

          Since the difference is mostly in how rounds are fed I'll have to go by price and how the gun feels in hand. Leaning a bit towards the 60. Thanks for the help.

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          • #20
            FML1982
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2012
            • 529

            I have had my marlin 60 for 16+ years, they are great 22lr, I was actually just looking at upgrading the stock with one at Boyd's Gun Stocks. I just ordered one for my .308 and it looks and feels great so a new stock for the 60 is in the near future.
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            • #21
              bczrx
              Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 385

              I have a 1975 Glenfield Model 60. I have upgraded it with the LSHO feature, which required a new bolt and feed throat setup. I had to replace the feedthroat anyway, as the old one was shot out and wasn't ejecting any longer.

              Now it locks back on last shot.

              I also installed the KAT trigger you can get from arrowdodge on rimfirecentraldotcom.

              My trigger pull is now a long, but LIGHT [less than 2.5#s, because I didn't want a 1# trigger], SMOOTH [like butta!] pull with a crisp release at the end.

              Best money I could spend on it: anyone with a 60/795 should check it out.



              Accuracy wise: I don't know that you will notice a difference.

              The main advantages of a 60 over a 795 are the ease of transport, as you can use your hand at the balance point to carry it, where the 795 magazine sticks out, and the lower operational costs [see analysis of costs for use of spee-d-loaders and tube magazines].

              The main advantages of a 795 over a 60 are potential barrel harmonics benefit to a clip/magazine fed over a tube magazine fed, the speed of reloads [with 10-round magazines, that is negated by the frequency required to keep up with a 17+round 60 and Spee-D-Loaders] and a truly 'tactical' advantage- ease of reloads while lying down.

              The 795 is easier to reload while lying down, behind a log or some other protection. Any tube fed .22lr design suffers from the need for gravity and the requirement for vertical space for that.

              For plinking and hunting, this isn't a real issue. For use at the range this isn't an issue. For gun games and 'tactical' use this could be an issue.

              Some have said tube-fed .22lr rifles suffer from barrel harmonics being 'out of whack' due to the weight of the magazine and rounds hanging on it. This is kind of the 'anti-free floating barrel' concept. If you believe in free-floating a barrel, the model 60 isn't really for you. Sure, you can relieve the stock to keep the metal from not touching. However, the magazine and rounds in it add weight/pressure to the barrel that is NOT there with the 795.

              For me, this is a non-issue. My breathing and trigger control are of greater concern.



              Lastly, there is the financial advantage of having a tube-fed over a magazine -fed design, in the ability to rapidly fire almost 300 rounds [272 rounds].

              To do this, all I really need are 2 17-round Spee-D-Loaders, at around $25 each. And these are static loaded, so there is no worry of mag springs wearing out because they were kept loaded too long.

              As I am in California, I CAN legally have 17 rounds in my 22 tube-fed, whereas I cannot do this with a 795.

              In a 795, I'd have to have 27 10-round magazines, at a cost in magazines alone of around $540.

              In free states, there are two other options:
              • 25 round magazines are available for the 795, but to load the same number of rounds would require 11 magazines, at a total cost of around $200.
              • 55 round drum magazines are available also, for those who live in free states.
              • However, I'd need to have around 5 of those, which would cost me around $500 to have as many rounds loaded.
              • There is also a 70 round drum, at around $100 each also. This would only cost me around $400 to load up as many as my 2 Spee-D-Loaders.


              I personally like the look/feel/balance/capacity of tube-fed .22lr rifles. I am not a 'tactical' guy, so reloads while lying on the ground are not a big deal for me. If there were, I'd want a more serious caliber than .22lr anyway [.223/5.56 or .308 come to mind].

              Anyway, those are my thoughts. For what they are worth.

              OH, last thought.

              Be careful about older Model 60s. My older Glenfield cannot use the TechSights, as my front sight is not removeable/replaceable. My front sight and sight base is different from the 'normal' [modern] Marlin model 60s. Thus, factory iron sights for me or a scope [I went scope route].

              Just a heads up about older model 60s: some may not be able to use TechSights.
              Last edited by bczrx; 03-26-2014, 12:35 AM.
              Where did all the range-time go?

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              • #22
                roushstage2
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 2782

                Originally posted by Jimmybacon43
                Basically the 795 is a product improved model 60, think M1A versus M1 Garand. It's just too bad that the 795 has a synthetic stock, I'd love it if somebody made an aftermarket wood one.
                The Marlin 60 has been the 60 the whole time, and came out almost 10 years before the Marlin Model 70. The 795 is the improved version of the Marlin Model 70. I have two of each and they all perform the same.

                ETA: As for a wood stock, check out Boyd's.
                Last edited by roushstage2; 03-31-2014, 9:59 AM.

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