1400 FPS Pellet Gun vs 22 Rifle

[happyharold4]

I saw a box of 22lr that was 40 grain and said 1040 fps---Then while in Big 5 I saw a pellet gun that said 1400 fps---360 fps more in the pellet gun, but it's not considered a gun---Am I missing something Here

Happy

[devster55]

the pellet gun shoots a lighter pellet. That's why its faster.

[Don the savage]

Shhhh you will confuse the leftists.

[hamster07]

40 grain vs 8 grain.

[Fifty226]

the 22lr will prob hurt a lot more than the pellet gun haha

[G21Shooter]

Lighter projectile dude. Spring piston pellet guns max out at about 20-30 FPE, while .22 lr can go over 200 FPE with hyper velocity ammo.

[Merc1138]

the 22lr will prob hurt a lot more than the pellet gun haha

Depending on the pellet gun, they can do a lot more damage than a .22lr. Of course I've never seen much in the way of decent air guns at big 5, but elsewhere you can get much larger calibers at some pretty decent velocity(people these days successfully go hunting with them, and I don't mean squirrels). Modern pellet guns, even if they aren't some big bore pcp, are not toys.

[CSACANNONEER]

There are plenty of airguns that shoot with more energy than a .22lr. But, just comparing muzzle velocity doesn't mean anything. Also, faster does not always mean better. Ever noticed that the most consistent loads are not the fastest loads on the market?

[Spyder]

[Izzy43]

I saw a box of 22lr that was 40 grain and said 1040 fps---Then while in Big 5 I saw a pellet gun that said 1400 fps---360 fps more in the pellet gun, but it's not considered a gun---Am I missing something Here

Happy

You are missing the ballistics data. Weight of projectile X velocity = energy. Its an apples to oranges comparison. Shoot both the pellet rifle and the .22lr @ 25, 50 and 100yds and the answer will become clear. The .22lr will have 5 times the energy and much more accuracy at those distances. Shoot that little 7-10 grain pellet in a 5 mph crosswind to see another disadvantage. There is a reason that Olympic Comptetition with air rifles are shot are 10 meters and indoors, its the ballistics of the projectile.

Not knocking pellet rifles but they are not firearms and should not be compared to a firearm. Different animals.

[Occams Rasor]

You are missing the ballistics data. Weight of projectile X velocity = energy

One correction: it is velocity squared. If you
want the kinetic engergy it in ft-lbs, here it the equation:

(Velocity X Velocity X Bullet Weight)/450,240 = ft. lbs.
vel in fps, bullet wt in grains.

[acourvil]

Especially for common pellets. In general, diablo shaped pellets shoot poorly at transonic/supersonic speeds.

There are plenty of airguns that shoot with more energy than a .22lr. But, just comparing muzzle velocity doesn't mean anything. Also, faster does not always mean better. Ever noticed that the most consistent loads are not the fastest loads on the market?

[DannyInSoCal]

My pellet gun hits with over 70FPE. It isn't from Big5.

Kool. Which one did you choose...?

[acourvil]

With good quality pellets and well tuned quality pellet guns, you can get just as much accuracy with pellet guns as with .22LR out to 100 yards, especially if you are using .22 or .25 pellets. The energy is less, but the accuracy is there. If you want energy in the same ballpark, you need to step up to .30 or .357 pellets.

The ballistics are different, but inconsequential out to 50 yards or more. After that, there is more divergence, but it's manageable out to 100 yards or so.

But you are right, firearms and pellet guns are different beasts.

You are missing the ballistics data. Weight of projectile X velocity = energy. Its an apples to oranges comparison. Shoot both the pellet rifle and the .22lr @ 25, 50 and 100yds and the answer will become clear. The .22lr will have 5 times the energy and much more accuracy at those distances. Shoot that little 7-10 grain pellet in a 5 mph crosswind to see another disadvantage. There is a reason that Olympic Comptetition with air rifles are shot are 10 meters and indoors, its the ballistics of the projectile.

Not knocking pellet rifles but they are not firearms and should not be compared to a firearm. Different animals.

[diver160651]

I chose the Benjamin Marauder .25 (PCP) with Eunjin 43.8gr pellets, 10lb hammer spring. Shoots about 2" into a 4"x6" backstop. Knocks crows and squirrels one hit dead out to 100 yards and literally destroys pigeons at 25-40 yards. And, I can shoot it all day in my backyard and the neighbors think I am using a nail gun. I guess I am, technically.

Ditto!

But I using the same in 22 cal



Large ravins are dead at 60yards every-time -- just does not miss. Prints less than 1/2" at 50 yards. Here is a 10 shot group at just over 10yards. The 10 round hole is not much bigger than the pellet.





Correction to those on here saying that air guns are less capable that a 22LR. 50 cal air guns a cable of over 230+ lbs of energy & 25's capable taking coyotes ant close range.

Btw the Gamos and other that go supper sonic with super light weight pellets also tend to suffer when they re-enter the transonic zone. Heavy pellets with higher BCs that stay under super sonic trend to be far more accurate, and shoot further.

These PCP guns are great practice for LR shooting on the cheap - like this 10" plate at 1100 yards




Jt

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