Question about the BX-25

[CSACANNONEER]

So if you "found one" at a gun range assembled it would be legal because you neither assembled nor imported?

While the whole "finding" thing is just academic for most, I worked at a range and routinely found old mags in the trash. So, it has happened. But, as of 1-1-2014, it would be illegal to even pick one up that was considered "litter". So, be careful during range clean ups.

[Spyguy]

Since the BX-25 didn't exist in 1998, i have to imagine it would be pretty tough to explain to a judge how you have one without either importing or assembling illegally.

Because you can buy them as a rebuild kit for an older malfunctioning 25-round magazine (like Ram-Line or Butler Creek) owned before the ban.

Take the 5th amendment and shut up i guess.

That should go without saying, even if everything you own and everything you've done is 100% legal by any interpretation of the law.

[Davide46m3]

I thought it was ok to have but can take me out of state let say Arizona someone told me u Can legally own a high cap mag but not get caught using in California or be kept loaded in safe or gun ?? Does that mean everyone has to keep there high cap mags disassembled or is it ok to keep them assembled in a safe unloaded ??? Can some one please help

[Spyguy]

But, as of 1-1-2014, it would be illegal to even pick one up that was considered "litter".

I think that interpretation of the new law is still subject to debate. It really is a very messy and ill-written law.

['ol shooter]

I, for one, do not intend to debate my freedom in a court of law, so I will err on the side of caution, and never show one in a public place.

[smittty]

AB 48 signed today. As of July 1, 2014 this new law prohibits possession of any mag that holds more than 10 rounds including unassembled parts kits. Mags blocked to hold 10 are still legal.

[AUstate]

AB 48 signed today. As of July 1, 2014 this new law prohibits possession of any mag that holds more than 10 rounds including unassembled parts kits. Mags blocked to hold 10 are still legal.

No it doesn't.


Please read up on the many threads about 48.

Possession is not illegal because parts of 48 were dependent on SB 396. And since sb396 did not make it, there are large amounts of text in AB48 that are no longer valid.

[Rosebud22]

OP: If you get caught with a 25rd mag you could be convicted of a felony.
Yes, chances of that are remote. But, if you do, you will not pass a background check and therefore not be able to buy a gun through an FFL.
Is this really worth it??
We all agree the law is stupid, confusing and worthless. Still not worth taking the risk.

[majtom94]

OP: If you get caught with a 25rd mag you could be convicted of a felony.
Yes, chances of that are remote. But, if you do, you will not pass a background check and therefore not be able to buy a gun through an FFL.
Is this really worth it??
We all agree the law is stupid, confusing and worthless. Still not worth taking the risk.

Wrong-

32311. (a) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section 32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing January 1, 2014, any person in this state who knowingly manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, buys, or receives any large capacity magazine conversion kit is punishable by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000) or imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed six months, or by both that fine and imprisonment. This section does not apply to a fully assembled large-capacity magazine, which is governed by Section 32310.

32310. Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with Section
32400) of this chapter and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section
17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, commencing January 1, 2000, any
person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured,
imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for
sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine is
punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or
imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.

My read is possession is not a crime. (I'm not a lawyer and the comments are only for education purposes)

[Rosebud22]

My read is possession is not a crime. (I'm not a lawyer and the comments are only for education purposes)

The original OP stated he was going to buy in NV. That is importing.
Depending on what you are doing at the time with the mag, there a chance it could be kicked up to a felony. Even if not, 6 mo in jail is not my idea of a fun time. My point is: Is all this risk really worth it???

[MyOdessa]

The original OP stated he was going to buy in NV. That is importing.
Depending on what you are doing at the time with the mag, there a chance it could be kicked up to a felony. Even if not, 6 mo in jail is not my idea of a fun time. My point is: Is all this risk really worth it???

^ This.

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[BobRSanchez]

The original OP stated he was going to buy in NV. That is importing.
Depending on what you are doing at the time with the mag, there a chance it could be kicked up to a felony. Even if not, 6 mo in jail is not my idea of a fun time. My point is: Is all this risk really worth it???

Yeah, no, I don't plan on getting a BX-25 whilst I live in California. But I did order a trimag