22/45 lite

[Essj000]

Is there any way I can have this is California? SSE plus permanently install a muzzle brake. Would there still be a problem since the barrel is part of the serialized receiver ?

[Merc1138]

If you're willing to pay someone to do it, sure. Wouldn't be cheap though. Pin and weld a muzzle extension for the SSE, then cut it off with the threads once you're done, strip it and get it recrowned. You'd also need to deal with the mag. I haven't heard of anyone doing that, since it's more than just a drop in barrel swap like most SSE.

[Merc1138]

Does the mods have to be done by the seller before it ships?

If you buy it from some online reseller, dunno. If your shop gets it like they normally would and buys it themselves, pretty sure they wold be the ones doing it like most SSEs.

[Essj000]

If you buy it from some online reseller, dunno. If your shop gets it like they normally would and buys it themselves, pretty sure they wold be the ones doing it like most SSEs.

Thanks bud! Now I just to find a shop that's willing to do it.

[Press Check]

Class 2 SOT or not, there's no FFL in CA that's going to touch that. You would need to have it shipped to usmachinegun.com in Arizona, have Michael complete the pin and weld, and ship it to your local FFL. Not much time to have a Single-Shot Exemption done, though.

[Merc1138]

Class 2 SOT or not, there's no FFL in CA that's going to touch that. You would need to have it shipped to usmachinegun.com in Arizona, have Michael complete the pin and weld, and ship it to your local FFL. Not much time to have a Single-Shot Exemption done, though.

Not to mention, since it isn't a simple part swap job, you're paying for parts plus labor, twice. It wouldn't be your standard $50 SSE fee or whatever and it would have to be a shop with a gunsmith and the tools that's willing to do it.

Considering the same issue applies to the tac sol receivers and the only ones of those I've heard of in this state are from exempted people like LEO or people who moved into CA with them from out of state, it's pretty unlikely you'll find the right combination willing to do it. And those tacsol receivers have been around way longer than the 22/45 lite.

If you did find a place capable and willing to do it, they'd know what was going on and there's a possibility since they'd have you by the balls(not like you'd be getting it elsewhere) they could ask $300 for the job.

[Press Check]

The cost to have it pinned, welded and shipped to a CA FFL would be about $100. Normally, a bit less, but Michael charges extra to pin and weld aluminum.

By the way, the Lite features a sleeved barrel, and based on the unique design of the barrel itself, in addition to the jam nut used to support and tension the barrel, cutting the threads off and simply recrowning is not an option. It would essentially ruin the pistol, rendering it useless. As a permanent alternative, the end-user could have a Tac-Sol Compensator pinned and welded, and use one of the new VQ bolts with the extended charging handle to achieve the minimum length for exemption.

All said and done, about $400 above the cost of the pistol to own one. Ask me how I know!

[Merc1138]

The cost to have it pinned, welded and shipped to a CA FFL would be about $100. Normally, a bit less, but Michael charges extra to pin and weld aluminum.

By the way, the Lite features a sleeved barrel, and based on the unique design of the barrel itself, in addition to the jam nut used to support and tension the barrel, cutting the threads off and simply recrowning is not an option. It would essentially ruin the pistol, rendering it useless. As a permanent alternative, the end-user could have a Tac-Sol Compensator pinned and welded, and use one of the new VQ bolts with the extended charging handle to achieve the minimum length for exemption.

All said and done, about $400 above the cost of the pistol to own one. Ask me how I know!

I don't see how cutting the threads off and recrowning could possibly ruin it, since it's not like the end with the threads is contained by the sleeve anyway, nor is having a muzzle device torqued into place a requirement for keeping tension on it. You wouldn't need to cut it down below the surface of the sleeve.

But yeah, the costs for the transfers, labor, parts, and fees are going to jack the total cost of the pistol up so high, it's a little harder to still consider whether or not it's worth it.

[shovelon]

The cost to have it pinned, welded and shipped to a CA FFL would be about $100. Normally, a bit less, but Michael charges extra to pin and weld aluminum.

By the way, the Lite features a sleeved barrel, and based on the unique design of the barrel itself, in addition to the jam nut used to support and tension the barrel, cutting the threads off and simply recrowning is not an option. It would essentially ruin the pistol, rendering it useless. As a permanent alternative, the end-user could have a Tac-Sol Compensator pinned and welded, and use one of the new VQ bolts with the extended charging handle to achieve the minimum length for exemption.

All said and done, about $400 above the cost of the pistol to own one. Ask me how I know!

Seeing as how the barrel is made from 7076-t6 alum, I don't see how welding that alloy can be a viable option as it is not readily weldable. It has more zinc than 7075.

Google the details if you want. I know from experience.

[Press Check]

Seeing as how the barrel is made from 7076-t6 alum, I don't see how welding that alloy can be a viable option as it is not readily weldable. It has more zinc than 7075.

Google the details if you want. I know from experience.

You'd pin and weld a Tac-Sol or likewise compensator, not the barrel itself. In the case of the Tac-Sol compensator, it is 6061-T6 aluminum, which is highly weldable.

[shovelon]

You'd pin and weld a Tac-Sol or likewise compensator, not the barrel itself. In the case of the Tac-Sol compensator, it is 6061-T6 aluminum, which is highly weldable.

Makes sense.

So how does that work? Do you pin it with steel pins and cap weld over them to capture? Or use alum pins and plug weld the pins to the 6061? Do you drill into the treads and not penetrate the barrel ID?

Kudos to the guy that figured out how to do that.

[Press Check]

The short version is, you would screw on the compensator, mark the 6 o'clock position, remove the compensator, used a drill press to drill a hole in the compensator that is the same diameter as the steel pin you intend to use, and reattached the compensator. At this point, you'd use a drill press again to notch the barrel threads to avoid breaching the ID of the barrel, then drop in the steel pin, which must be beneath the OD of the compensator, and weld from the pin head up, capping and welding over the pin. Then, you'd take a Dremel or likewise hand tool and ground the weld flush with the compensator, and refinish the scarred area with cold bluing, a BC marker, etc.

Based on your response, you already know that you're permanently fusing and capturing the pin within the notch so that the compensator cannot be unscrewed and/or removed.

[shovelon]

Got it. Thanks.

[Spyguy]

I haven't been following the SSE laws. Could someone explain why something has to be pinned and welded to the barrel?

[majtom94]

I haven't been following the SSE laws. Could someone explain why something has to be pinned and welded to the barrel?

No threaded barrels on pistols in CA.