It's tube-feeding time

[coverme2]

Lets talk tube-fed .22LR rifles. Please showoff what to have and why you do or don't like it. Bolt-action, lever-action, pump-action, semi-auto. Since the friendly detachable-mag rimfire rile is heading the way of the AWs, maybe those of you who are familiar with tube-mag rimfire rifles can enlighten us. Who makes the most accurate and reliable tube-fed and most beautiful adult-sized rimfire rifle out there? Thanks!

[USMC VET]

I think tube fed mags are under that "aw" name too. I think it said "fixed magazines capable of holding more than 10rnds"

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

[Chaos47]

Too early to give in that the law will pass so I will not commit on that.

Marlin is the name of the game in tube fed.
Lever: 39A
Semi: 60
Bolt: XT-22

[E Michael]

I'm cleaning up one of my dads old mossberg and sons tube fed 22.ill try and get a range report in a few Weeks

[morrcarr67]

I think tube fed mags are under that "aw" name too. I think it said "fixed magazines capable of holding more than 10rnds"

Someone correct me if I'm wrong

That's the way I understand it too.

[coverme2]

Dayum...so that means short tubes for future designs? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[morrcarr67]

Dayum...so that means short tubes for future designs? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Yup, tubes that hold 10 or less.

[morrcarr67]

My tube feed 22lr AW

[Chaos47]

Ugh, I didn't want this thread to turn into a SB374 discussion but...

Today's version (Because it changes all the time)

(1) A semiautomatic, rimfire or centerfire rifle that has does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept no more than 10 rounds.

So it says "does not have a fixed magazine"
A tube magazine would be a fixed magazine so it would not meet all the conditions.
Therefore it would not be a AW

[morrcarr67]

Ugh, I didn't want this thread to turn into a SB374 discussion but...

Today's version (Because it changes all the time)



So it says "does not have a fixed magazine"
A tube magazine would be a fixed magazine so it would not meet all the conditions.
Therefore it would not be a AW

Good to know. I hadn't heard about the change.

[rm1911]

Ugh, I didn't want this thread to turn into a SB374 discussion but...

Today's version (Because it changes all the time)



So it says "does not have a fixed magazine"
A tube magazine would be a fixed magazine so it would not meet all the conditions.
Therefore it would not be a AW

Read it carefully. It's written poorly (probably by someone who English was not their first language!!)

(1) A semiautomatic, rimfire or centerfire rifle that has does not have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept no more than 10 rounds.

This is part of the definition of an AW. It does not have a fixed mag that holds less than 11. In other words a fixed mag that holds 11 is an AW.

There's a separate part altogether about detachable mags. This part here is for fixed mag guns. See how evil this bill is. They know it too. F***ers.

Levers and bolts and pumps are not covered.

Yet.

[coverme2]

Read it carefully. It's written poorly (probably by someone who English was not their first language!!)


This is part of the definition of an AW. It does not have a fixed mag that holds less than 11. In other words a fixed mag that holds 11 is an AW.

There's a separate part altogether about detachable mags. This part here is for fixed mag guns. See how evil this bill is. They know it too. F***ers.

Levers and bolts and pumps are not covered.

Yet.

The "levers and bolts and pumps" part is what I'm mostly interested in. This means my future bolty/lumpy/levy rifle with long tube mag will be gtg.....right?

I don't like it any more than the rest of you, but if I have to resort to tube mag'd rimfire rifle to keep me firearms proficient and legally entertained well then I'm going buy the best tubed rifle I can afford. I see Henry...I see Uberti...I see Marlin...I see Ruger...I see CZ...but no experience with any of these. I test shot a bolty recently...I liked it.

[coverme2]

My tube feed 22lr AW

Nice. Looks like it has some history. Thanks for sharing.

[Chaos47]

Read it carefully. It's written poorly (probably by someone who English was not their first language!!)


This is part of the definition of an AW. It does not have a fixed mag that holds less than 11. In other words a fixed mag that holds 11 is an AW.

There's a separate part altogether about detachable mags. This part here is for fixed mag guns. See how evil this bill is. They know it too. F***ers.

Levers and bolts and pumps are not covered.

Yet.

I agree it is poorly written. I was just discussing yesterday with someone that thought it covered other action types then semiautomatic. It does not.

The key is that it is an all or nothing statement.
To be an AW it must meet all the criteria under that point.

To translate it:
An assault weapon also means something that meets all these conditions:
1 Semiautomatic
2 Rimfire or Centerfire
3 Rifle
4 Does not have a fixed magazine (In other words has detachable magazine)
5 Does not hold over 10 rounds

A fixed magazine (in this case a tube) does not meet condition 4 therefore you do not proceed to condition 5. It is all or nothing.

[Milsurp Collector]

Since the friendly detachable-mag rimfire rile is heading the way of the AWs...

Only if it is semiautomatic. It can have a detachable magazine (10 rounds or less) if it is not semiautomatic i.e. bolt, lever, single-shot, etc.

On the other hand, if it is semiautomatic and has a tube magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds, it will be an "assault weapon" under SB 374. Including this one, because it is semiautomatic and the tube magazine can hold more than 10 rounds. The State of California is going to classify this tube-magazine .22 rifle as an "assault weapon".