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  • ifilef
    Banned
    • Apr 2008
    • 5665

    Marlin 60 .22 semi-automatic rifle - bore sighting?’

    Is it possible to manually bore sight a Marlin 60? Seems that it's done with bolt action rifles with little problem.

    If it can be done with a Marlin 60, can it be done without difficulty? Is it worth it?

    In the alternative, I was thinking of just mounting the scope, leveling the rifle and scope, and going to the range, and trying to zero at 50 yards, unless it ok to zero it at 25 yards (I know that 50 would generally be preferable).

    Thanks in advance! All opinions welcome.
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    roushstage2
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2782

    Not easily. Start at 25 yards and move out to 50. That's how I do all of mine; even the bolt-actions. It does not take me long at all, nor very many rounds.

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    • #3
      Annex138
      Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 373

      If your talking about looking down the bore with your eyes and setting up your scope then no you can not do that with a model 60. There is no way to get a clear view of the bore from the rear. The reason it is done with bolt action rifles is because you can remove the bolt and look down the bore from behind the gun.

      If your talking about using one of those laser bore sighters that you put in at the muzzle, then yes you can use that to bore sight the gun.

      Or you can go the easy route and just mount your scope and go to the range. Start at 25 yards to make sure your on paper. Adjust your scope and get it zeroed in at 25.

      I have never bore sighted any of my rifles. I just mount the scope and head to the range.

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      • #4
        Chaos47
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2010
        • 6615

        ^That.

        I agree just put it on and go out and see where it hits.
        As long as your mounts are not super tall you should be on paper and should be able to walk it in

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        • #5
          SB1964
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 4876

          Originally posted by roushstage2
          Not easily. Start at 25 yards and move out to 50. That's how I do all of mine; even the bolt-actions. It does not take me long at all, nor very many rounds.
          ^ This is what I do. I tend to use 50 yds as a benchmark for .22LR. I use a rest to see what my Gun will do also.
          Yes I took the pic, no I didn't go swimming!

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          • #6
            sephy
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 1146

            Originally posted by roushstage2
            Not easily. Start at 25 yards and move out to 50. That's how I do all of mine; even the bolt-actions. It does not take me long at all, nor very many rounds.
            That's what I do. Shouldn't take many rounds if you do your calculations correctly.

            Even if it does it's just 22

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            • #7
              Izzy43
              CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
              • Dec 2009
              • 2670

              Originally posted by ifilef
              Is it possible to manually bore sight a Marlin 60? Seems that it's done with bolt action rifles with little problem.

              If it can be done with a Marlin 60, can it be done without difficulty? Is it worth it?

              In the alternative, I was thinking of just mounting the scope, leveling the rifle and scope, and going to the range, and trying to zero at 50 yards, unless it ok to zero it at 25 yards (I know that 50 would generally be preferable).

              Thanks in advance! All opinions welcome.
              Yes it can be done. Remove the action and you can see down the bore. Kind of a PITA. The advice others have given is a better way to do it. For a good starting point ensure that the scope is optically centered. Most are from the factory but then some are not. To do this you will need to run the elevation and windage adjustments to their limit. DO NOT FORCE any adjustments when doing this. Then when counting the number of clicks, adjust them to the other limit. Divide that by 2 and adjust each by that number of clicks (Max number of clicks divided by 2). That will put the scope crosshairs at the approximate optical center. Since the scope will be mounted above the bore expect the rifle to shoot low at first firing. At 50 yds maybe a couple of inches, same for the windage. You can determine and set the optical center of the scope prior to going to the range.

              Edit: So its you. See you tomorrow at the range. I have zeroed many, many scopes and can give you some pointers tomorrow.
              Last edited by Izzy43; 02-13-2013, 3:24 PM.

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              • #8
                ifilef
                Banned
                • Apr 2008
                • 5665

                Originally posted by Annex138
                If your talking about looking down the bore with your eyes and setting up your scope then no you can not do that with a model 60. There is no way to get a clear view of the bore from the rear. The reason it is done with bolt action rifles is because you can remove the bolt and look down the bore from behind the gun.
                That was a direct answer to my inquiry. Thank you!

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                • #9
                  ifilef
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 5665

                  Originally posted by Izzy43
                  Yes it can be done. Remove the action and you can see down the bore. Kind of a PITA. The advice others have given is a better way to do it. For a good starting point ensure that the scope is optically centered. Most are from the factory but then some are not. To do this you will need to run the elevation and windage adjustments to their limit. DO NOT FORCE any adjustments when doing this. Then when counting the number of clicks, adjust them to the other limit. Divide that by 2 and adjust each by that number of clicks (Max number of clicks divided by 2). That will put the scope crosshairs at the approximate optical center. Since the scope will be mounted above the bore expect the rifle to shoot low at first firing. At 50 yds maybe a couple of inches, same for the windage. You can determine and set the optical center of the scope prior to going to the range.

                  Edit: So its you. See you tomorrow at the range. I have zeroed many, many scopes and can give you some pointers tomorrow.
                  Well, I did not want to be presumptuous and ask you to assist me. If you don't mind giving some pointers, that would be great!

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                  • #10
                    ifilef
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5665

                    Izzy-

                    See you at the range.

                    I think that I'll mount scope there for first time -I do have Weaver tip-off rings purchased at Wal-Mart, some levels, and will try to get on paper.

                    If I have difficulty with that I will then try to optically center or take any other suggestions that you may have.

                    Scope is a new Simmons .22 Mag 3-9x32mm AO.
                    Last edited by ifilef; 02-14-2013, 7:49 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Chaos47
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 6615

                      Originally posted by ifilef
                      I think that I'll mount scope there for first time -I do have Weaver tip-off rings purchased at Wal-Mart, some levels, and will try to get on paper.
                      Might have issues with those rings walking off.

                      I would get an UTG "Airgun" .22 Integral Ring Mount its what most people use on the Marlin 795 (magazine fed version of the M60).



                      Thats what I run and they are solid.

                      Might want to look at the 795 thread while you are at it as many of the parts are the same. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=607193


                      Good luck, have fun!

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                      • #12
                        Annex138
                        Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 373

                        +1 ^^^^

                        This is the same set up I have on my 795 and also on my girlfriends model 60. The dovetail grove on the marlins suck. The only mounts I found that do not walk on you is the one posted above.

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                        • #13
                          roushstage2
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2782

                          Originally posted by Chaos47
                          Might have issues with those rings walking off.
                          May very well indeed. My scope walked right off of my Marlin 60. I tried some blue loctite afterwards, but haven't shot it since. Figured I already had the loctite. Worst case, I'll be getting that mount.

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                          • #14
                            ifilef
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 5665

                            It was nice meeting you, 'Izzy', at the range today, and thanks again for your assistance in the mounting of my scope, and the other courtesy extended.

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                            • #15
                              Izzy43
                              CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 2670

                              Same here. How did the zero/shooting go?

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