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  • Redneck Geek
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1002



    A 'reseller' buys INSIDE California to sell RETAIL and charges sales tax.
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    • jetman624
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 514

      Originally posted by jdben92883
      I'm basing it on the feedback given by most of the more prolific members on this tread. If you'd spend a little time here...instead of popping in one day and pissing off 100 people in a single evening...you'd see what I meant. I'm not referring to the average Joe on the street...I'm referring to the frequent users of this thread.

      I tried to help you. Even posted 21 links for your benefit. They all work and I used them all this evening. Instead of figuring out how to use them, you posted back that only 2 were working. The run on .22lr has been going on for a solid 2 months. Because of this thread, I have close to 20k rounds. Most was purchased at 5-6 cent/round. And I got into this thread way late in the game.

      You can belly-ache about the flippers or you can avoid them altogether. There is PLENTY of ammo going around. For those still buying the 10 cents stuff on the Marketplace, good for them. I hope to see them on the range. For those selling it for 10 cents, good for them too. I'm glad to see them in this place called America.
      I realizing I am coming across as a prick here, but I am just in shock that anyone here, in community such as this, would defend such a practice as "free market capitalism". Buying up things that are, or should be, readily available to EVERYONE, just to flip them is not "free market capitalism". The manufacture of the ammo components, the ammo itself and the retailer fill those rolls. Everyone else is just screwing people over.

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      • Mayor McRifle
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2013
        • 7660

        Originally posted by CAguy
        Good idea. Pick up some extra and sell it at cost. If a bunch of folks offered it up at near cost the flippers will go away. I like it!
        Except that the ammo scalpers themselves will buy most of it and then flip it all for a 100 to 200% profit to the very community you were trying to help. You would just be increasing their inventories and profit margins. They've joined our community to prey on and profit from us, and these vultures aren't going anywhere. They don't produce anything or provide any real service. Their business is price gouging, and business is good.
        Last edited by Mayor McRifle; 02-11-2014, 9:54 PM.
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        • Paperchasin
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          • Oct 2010
          • 6407

          Well this thread was good while it lasted.
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          • abe2131
            Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 230

            Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
            Except that the ammo scalpers will buy most of it and then flip it all for a 100 to 200% profit to the very community you were trying to help. You would just be increasing their inventories and profit margins. They've joined our community to prey on and profit from us, and these vultures aren't going anywhere. Their business is price gouging, and business is good.
            Excellent point. I thought at first this was a good idea, but didn't think of that angle.

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            • davefromca
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 821

              Originally posted by Paperchasin
              Well this thread was good while it lasted.
              Dude seriously. Some discussion here or there is one thing but there is now 3 pages of crap. Seriously start another 22 thread and have the discussion there.

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              • rodH
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 259

                Frankly, I think flipping is a kind of jerky thing to to, much like paying $475 for a freakin SR22 last week. I could have gotten one for $300 and did an intrafamilial transfer but it would have involved 3 family members, 2 dealers and a shipping company. Waay to big of a PITA to save $150.

                I guess I wanted it bad enough to bend over for it, but it doesn't mean it felt good. But oh well, what can I do about it? I wanted to gun, and if I didn't buy it for $475, he has several people behind me willing to pay it.

                I guess reason I was willing to pay it, was with all my 22 ammo, I save money in the long run vs my .40 or 5.56. But it still kind if sucks.

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                • dpop67
                  Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 194

                  Originally posted by shakyshoot
                  No, I'm ignoring you.
                  This!
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                  • covingtonhouse
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2183

                    Originally posted by jetman624
                    There is so much crap in these two posts.

                    Most people are sitting on caches in the 1k's or 10k's? MOST? Really? What data are you basing that assumption off of?

                    Nobody WANTS to spend more than they have to, and no body is providing a "service". That is just non sense. Leaving the ammo on the website instead of buying it and gouging your local shooters would be a service to the entire community.

                    I cannot believe the incredible amount of ignorance I am reading in defense of this.

                    Just because it isn't anything new doesn't mean you aren't ALSO completely screwing over your fellow CGers.

                    Everyone doing this is part of the problem, feeding the frenzy, and making it more expensive and difficult for everyone who can't sit on a forum thread or babysit ACTUAL RESELLER websites to shoot.
                    This has been covered ad nauseum in MANY other threads. Search is your friend. That being said, there is no CURRENT law that prohibits personal sales of ammo in CA. I agree it is poor taste for someone to acknowledge that they are selling ammo that they found on this thread, but there is no law against poor taste either. If there was, half this country would be locked up. it's also funny that people hold up CG'ers as these great citizens that will do anything for their fellow gun enthusiasts. I hate to burst your bubble, but cg'ers constitute a cross-section of people from all walks of life. Some are more upstanding than others. To think that there is some moral superiority because you or anyone else happen to spend time on this or any other online forum is laughable.
                    Don't like the prices, don't buy it. How many others are here lurking and not even bringing attention to themselves, and selling ammo? There are also a lot of people who don't even live in CA that use this thread. Should we bar them because this is a locals only thing? The whole flipper complaining thing is getting about as stale as the folks who complain about people chit-chatting in the thread. Should we cry to Kestrel about the guys that always have C&R guns up for sale too?
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                    • olhunter
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3707

                      Originally posted by jetman624
                      I realizing I am coming across as a prick here, but I am just in shock that anyone here, in community such as this, would defend such a practice as "free market capitalism". Buying up things that are, or should be, readily available to EVERYONE, just to flip them is not "free market capitalism". The manufacture of the ammo components, the ammo itself and the retailer fill those rolls. Everyone else is just screwing people over.
                      Go post this in OT. See what happens.

                      What should be 'available to EVERYONE'? Gas? Lettuce? Toilet Paper?

                      What you're describing is 'socialism'. Look it up.

                      So used-car dealers, since they don't manufacture or retail, are 'flippers' and should be banned? Really?

                      In this forum, we really should stick to ammo deals we find.

                      Partially my fault I suppose. I apologize and will stop trying to defend America.
                      Last edited by olhunter; 02-11-2014, 10:09 PM.
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                      • covingtonhouse
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2183

                        Originally posted by jetman624
                        I realizing I am coming across as a prick here, but I am just in shock that anyone here, in community such as this, would defend such a practice as "free market capitalism". Buying up things that are, or should be, readily available to EVERYONE, just to flip them is not "free market capitalism". The manufacture of the ammo components, the ammo itself and the retailer fill those rolls. Everyone else is just screwing people over.
                        Well it should be no surprise if you've spent any time on the forum, that CG'ers lean to the right side of the middle when it concerns freedom in general. There is even a large libertarian contingent here. Those people will let anything go on.
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                        • Rango
                          Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 400

                          Ammo -

                          Originally posted by davefromca
                          So no ammo finds huh?
                          Just Mini Mags:


                          I've been watching to see if anything else was going to pop!

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                          • jetman624
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 514

                            Originally posted by covingtonhouse
                            This has been covered ad nauseum in MANY other threads. Search is your friend. That being said, there is no CURRENT law that prohibits personal sales of ammo in CA. I agree it is poor taste for someone to acknowledge that they are selling ammo that they found on this thread, but there is no law against poor taste either. If there was, half this country would be locked up. it's also funny that people hold up CG'ers as these great citizens that will do anything for their fellow gun enthusiasts. I hate to burst your bubble, but cg'ers constitute a cross-section of people from all walks of life. Some are more upstanding than others. To think that there is some moral superiority because you or anyone else happen to spend time on this or any other online forum is laughable.
                            Don't like the prices, don't buy it. How many others are here lurking and not even bringing attention to themselves, and selling ammo? There are also a lot of people who don't even live in CA that use this thread. Should we bar them because this is a locals only thing? The whole flipper complaining thing is getting about as stale as the folks who complain about people chit-chatting in the thread. Should we cry to Kestrel about the guys that always have C&R guns up for sale too?
                            I never said anything about a law prohibiting personal ammo sales. But if you are buying and selling things at a profit, you are deemed to be running a business and there are rules and licensing that go with that.

                            I don't know where you drew this "do anything" for one another bit, but you are off target there as well. I was not even remotely implying that. There is a big difference between that, and simply not screwing people out of money. But stupid me for thinking me for thinking such crazy things, right?

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                            • jetman624
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 514

                              Originally posted by olhunter
                              Go post this in OT. See what happens.

                              What should be 'available to EVERYONE'? Gas? Lettuce? Toilet Paper?

                              What you're describing is 'socialism'. Look it up.

                              So used-car dealers, since they don't manufacture or retail, are 'flippers' and should be banned? Really?

                              In this forum, we really should stick to ammo deals we find.

                              Partially my fault I suppose. I apologize and will stop trying to defend America.
                              No, that isn't what I was saying at all. And that isn't socialism.

                              A used car dealer is not even remotely the same as what we are talking about here.

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                              • baka
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 485

                                Cabela's is having issues or they just got the mother of all deliveries......

                                Check the links
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