Marlin 795 MEGATHREAD Part Deuce

[roushstage2]

A light film of oil kind of dry; not dripping wet.

[Chaos47]

I clean mine with CLP with a toothbrush and then wipe it down till it looks shiny but dry. If I feel crazy I spread one drop over the rails and one on the sides of the bolt. Any more and you are just giving unburnt powder and carbon places to stick to.

Never had any failure of any kind with either rifles with thousands of rounds fired each. Never noticed any extra ware from them being run almost dry.

[inbox485]

Never heard of this...

Which pin?
Where is it located? Trigger Guard, Action?
Photos would be helpful!

I have dealt with them for getting replacement magazines it was pretty easy but I am sure it will be a bit harder to send firearms back and forth...

So lets see if we can get them working for you before you have to send them in.

BTW Where are you located? If you are in the IE area I would be happy to look at them.

It is the main pin in the hammer:



The pin walks out and traps the sear disconnect down like this:



Not exactly range fixable. And it is two for two, so either there was a bad batch or Marlin has gone the way of Remington. Given who bought them both, that was my assumption. I think I might be able to deform the pin a bit on the opposite end and call it good, but I haven't had the time. I am in Hemet, so if you have any other ideas, I'm open to ideas. I've been telling anybody that's mentioned getting one of these to either buy used, or get a Ruger instead. My old hi-points are more reliable than these 795's.

[Chaos47]

Wow, well that sure sucks!

I will have to take my rifle apart when I get them back tomorrow night (they are at my friends house at the moment, just got back from vacation) and take a look to be sure but I am 90% sure that that pin on my rifles is peened on the opposite side so it is pretty much press fit.

I would assume either your pin is undersized or not peened.
If I am remembering it correctly the peen is just a dent in the center of the pin on the right side. I would probably do it with an automatic center punch.

Let me know if you want help.

[inbox485]

I don't remember for sure, but I don't think the pin was peened at all. Like I said, given the new owner, I'm not surprised that things like this are being skipped / missed.

I didn't know a center punch could punch that hard. I was planning to take something like a chizle and give a good wack on the opposite end to give it a slight dogbone. I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to take it back apart and work on it, but I'll try one, rip through a box of .22 shells to make sure it worked, then do the other.

[Chaos47]

Yea like I said I'm 90% sure it should have been peened. Someone got lazy at the factory apparently. I know when I polished my hammers that they came out with the strut and hammer firmly attached to eachother.


Your method may work too I just have seen an auto center punch peen a pin before so I know it works.

Tried to get the trigger pin out of a FM made Hipower clone with epoxy finish. That pin was in there so dang good you wouldn't believe all the stuff I tried. Read about people using automatic center punches to get them out. Got a Harbor freight one and it put a good dent into it but it didn't budge.

Had to borrow my step fathers adjustable one. Took dozens of hits starting from low to high to finally get it budging. (This is after a month of soaking it in penetrating oil, hah)

Ended up that there where 2 small metal shavings inside the hole that where acting like wedges. Ugh at least it came out and I could remove that dang Magazine safety.

But the point to this is yes an auto center punch can peen a pin.

[Chaos47]

Yea like I said I'm 90% sure it should have been peened. Someone got lazy at the factory apparently. I know when I polished my hammers that they came out with the strut and hammer firmly attached to eachother.


Your method may work too I just have seen an auto center punch peen a pin before so I know it works.

Tried to get the trigger pin out of a FM made Hipower clone with epoxy finish. That pin was in there so dang good you wouldn't believe all the stuff I tried. Read about people using automatic center punches to get them out. Got a Harbor freight one and it put a good dent into it but it didn't budge.

Had to borrow my step fathers adjustable one. Took dozens of hits starting from low to high to finally get it budging. (This is after a month of soaking it in penetrating oil, hah)

Ended up that there where 2 small metal shavings inside the hole that where acting like wedges. Ugh at least it came out and I could remove that dang Magazine safety.

But the point to this is yes an auto center punch can peen a pin.

[inbox485]

Do you think something like this would do the trick, or is there something better to use?

http://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html

[dooodstevenn]

are the stock sights really that bad? from what ive been reading everyone loves their tech sights and say they're worth the money, but how much of a difference does it actually make compared to stock?

also, what material are they made from?

[Chaos47]

Do you think something like this would do the trick, or is there something better to use?

http://www.harborfreight.com/spring-...punch-621.html

Thats the same one that was not strong enough to drive the pin on my hipower but it will probably work for this.

If you don't already have one you could just try your idea

are the stock sights really that bad? from what ive been reading everyone loves their tech sights and say they're worth the money, but how much of a difference does it actually make compared to stock?

also, what material are they made from?

The front stock sight is fine. Could use a dab of paint to brighten it up.
The stock rear is kinda crappy its just folded stamped metal.
Probably worth the 10ish bucks to get the adjustable rear sight from Numrich... But the stock ones will work.

Tech sights are more adjustable and give you a peep style view.
From what I understand they are made of plastic metal.
Lots of people swear by them, my friend had a set for his Remington 597. He hated them, said that the plastic was cheap and that they did not keep their zero. But honestly that is like the only complaint of them I have ever heard. Everyone online seems to love them...

Lots of people love the Tech sights because they mimic US WW2 Battle Rifle sights. Because this is the style of shooting they teach at Appleseed many people recommend them for that reason.

My Girlfriend 795 rocks Williams Fire Sights, which we both like.
My 795 is scoped and has no backup sights on it...

[rkt88edmo]

Ive got a new to me 795 and new manufacture one. I'll have to compare the pins. The new manufacture one has a qr code looking thingum inscribed next ro the serial #

[dooodstevenn]

Thats the same one that was not strong enough to drive the pin on my hipower but it will probably work for this.

If you don't already have one you could just try your idea



The front stock sight is fine. Could use a dab of paint to brighten it up.
The stock rear is kinda crappy its just folded stamped metal.
Probably worth the 10ish bucks to get the adjustable rear sight from Numrich... But the stock ones will work.

Tech sights are more adjustable and give you a peep style view.
From what I understand they are made of plastic.
Lots of people swear by them, my friend had a set for his Remington 597. He hated them, said that the plastic was cheap and that they did not keep their zero. But honestly that is like the only complaint of them I have ever heard. Everyone online seems to love them...

Lots of people love the Tech sights because they mimic US WW2 Battle Rifle sights. Because this is the style of shooting they teach at Appleseed many people recommend them for that reason.

My Girlfriend 795 rocks Williams Fire Sights, which we both like.
My 795 is scoped and has no backup sights on it...

thanks for the info! do you HAVE to have those style sights for appleseed? never been to one, but they're coming to the range down the street from my house in a few months that i want to go to, but i dont think i would want to spend 70 bucks on plastic sights.

also which fire sights fit the 795? i looked through the link and dont see marlin 795 sights specifically mentioned

[Chaos47]

No you don't have tech sights for Appleseed.
Appleseed is a bring what you have event.
Though it is highly recommend to have the GI style Web sling.

You can have any style sights or even a scope they will give you instruction on what you have. (Bring the manual for your scope if you have one)

The only thing you can not have at Appleseed is a bipod. Or use a large magazine as a Monopod. They teach shooting positions and sling use so you wont need one.


The Williams sights I purchased are for the M60 which is practically the same gun

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26037/Product/MARLIN-RIMFIRE-FIRE-SIGHTS

rkt88edmo What do your serial number start with?
The older ones start with numbers which if you took the first 2 and subtracted 100 from it you would get the year it was made.

Then when Remington took over they changed that and they started with "MM" Which is what both of mine are have.

I have not seen a QR style one yet, that is very interesting.

[dooodstevenn]

No you don't have tech sights for Appleseed.
Appleseed is a bring what you have event.
Though it is highly recommend to have the GI style Web sling.

You can have any style sights or even a scope they will give you instruction on what you have. (Bring the manual for your scope if you have one)

The only thing you can not have at Appleseed is a bipod. Or use a large magazine as a Monopod. They teach shooting positions and sling use so you wont need one.


The Williams sights I purchased are for the M60 which is practically the same gun

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26037/Product/MARLIN-RIMFIRE-FIRE-SIGHTS

rkt88edmo What do your serial number start with?
The older ones start with numbers which if you took the first 2 and subtracted 100 from it you would get the year it was made.

Then when Remington took over they changed that and they started with "MM" Which is what both of mine are have.

I have not seen a QR style one yet, that is very interesting.

oh okay, sounds good. any gunsmithing needed for those sights? or do they go on fairly straight forward?

[Chaos47]

Never installed a pair but it should be diy.

Rear clamps onto the dovetail rail on the back and front should just use the same hole screw