Best round for self defense

[m98]

Velocitors and keep the mags loaded. All my 1022 mags i've kept loaded over 10yrs now. No issues.

[busta00]

use both and stagger your rounds. stinger and velocitor

[TrailerparkTrash]

As someone pointed out, Stingers are not truely reliable in MANY 10/22's. Sure, some have never reported problems with them, but I dont use them.

I LOVE the Stingers, but in other riles I have. For the 10/22, I LOVE those Velocitors! For self defense, I believe (and I'm a "nobody") that the Velocitors would be your best bet. They penetrate and maintain their bullet weight better than the Stingers do.

...Just another opinion.

[BBJohnnyT]

+1 on the CCI Velocitors, especially in your 10/22.

[DannyInSoCal]

A good used shotgun is $200 to $300 -

Why risk needing a perfect shot -

When you can send multiple loads of 00buck down range.

If that's all you've got - Then use it.

But there are very good reasons why cops don't carry 22L sidearms.....

[Cowboy T]

A .22LR will kill, yes, but it won't provide knock-down power. In a SD-type situation, you want knock-down power. Normally I'd suggest a 12- or 20-gauge shotgun w/ buckshot, but the kick (except Remington 1100's) can be pretty severe.

If you're looking at self-defense in a long gun, but you don't want to deal with a shotgun's big kick, then consider this:

A levergun in a revolver cartridge.

If you like Ruger 10/22's, you'll also like Ruger's 96/44 in .44 Magnum, because it's basically a way-scaled up, lever-action, 10/22. Alternately, the Marlin 1894 and Rossi 92 leverguns ranging from .38/357 to .45 Long Colt are fine choices, too.

[NytWolf]

Good article speaks some on .22 with chart of calibers

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-self-defense/

The only real conclusion one can make is, the survey was a waste of money.

A good used shotgun is $200 to $300 -

Why risk needing a perfect shot -

When you can send multiple loads of 00buck down range.

If that's all you've got - Then use it.

But there are very good reasons why cops don't carry 22L sidearms.....

Even with a shotgun, you still have to aim, especially at SD ranges. The myth that with a shotgun, all you need to do is point, is simply untrue.

A .22LR will kill, yes, but it won't provide knock-down power. In a SD-type situation, you want knock-down power. Normally I'd suggest a 12- or 20-gauge shotgun w/ buckshot, but the kick (except Remington 1100's) can be pretty severe.

If you're lo...

What is "knock-down power"? It is a term used by the uninitiated.

[10101100]

you're going to want to use the one that has the most penetration. the thing about the stingers is that they fragment because of their speed. Such a round is meant for varmint. A high-velocity round nose with the most weight is what i'd use. for that small of a round, a hollow point may not even go through the thick clothing, or bone that you want it to. go for a 40grain ish round nose.

[NastyNate]

7.62 NATO

Save your pennies.

+1 for this. There is a reason that 70% of the world employs AK Variants in their .mil.

Cheap ammo and you can bury an AK in the dirt, come back for it 10 yrs later and it will work just as well as the day you buried it.

[the86d]

I'm retired on a fixed income and will be experimenting with a Henry H001Y Youth carbine and Aguila Subsonic Sniper rounds--these have a 60 grain slug with a stated muzzle velocity of 950 fps. As a musician I like the idea of having a subsonic cartridge which can be fired without ear protection in a pinch.

I think some MFRs make a dedicated 1:9 twist barrels for those 60 grainers, for longer range accuracy. I have read that the 1:16 might be shy of what a 60 grain needs to stabilize over longer than 300 yd distances... An M16 has a 1:7 twist for 62 grain projectiles (but I have read they should have gone with a 1:8).

Anyone have a range report with those 60 grain Aguilas on a 1:16 compared to 1:9?

[Coded-Dude]

As someone who has been shot over and over and over and over and over again with .22 bullets....I can tell you they really only piss people off. You are better off using pepper spray. Sorry about your luck, but .22 is not, and never will be, a good self defense round./sarcasm /thread.

[The Virus]

Many people have Ben killed by .22s , just last week I read a story about a mother who had hone invaders , she killed one if the bad guys w/a .22 , she got a headshot.

People don't like to get shot Period, not even by a .22

Who's Ben? How many has he killed?

[The Virus]

As someone who has been shot over and over and over and over and over again with .22 bullets....I can tell you they really only piss people off. You are better off using pepper spray. Sorry about your luck, but .22 is not, and never will be, a good self defense round./sarcasm /thread.

Shot AT, had you actually been shot I think you would prefer to be pepper sprayed.

[RuskieShooter]

Even with a shotgun, you still have to aim, especially at SD ranges. The myth that with a shotgun, all you need to do is point, is simply untrue.

He never said you don't need to aim. With a .22lr you need a perfect headshot for a quick kill (unlikely in a home defense situation). Aim center mass and you will be waiting a while for a potentially dangerous bad guy to bleed out. A load of 00 buck center mass will have a better chance of putting the bad guy down "hard".

What is "knock-down power"? It is a term used by the uninitiated.

Transference of kinetic energy from the projectile to your target typically measured in joules.

As stated plenty of times in similar threads; .22lr is better than nothing, but you are better off spending a couple of hundred bucks on a 9mm pistol or a cheap pump 12ga.

-Ruskie

[NytWolf]

He never said you don't need to aim. With a .22lr you need a perfect headshot for a quick kill (unlikely in a home defense situation). Aim center mass and you will be waiting a while for a potentially dangerous bad guy to bleed out. A load of 00 buck center mass will have a better chance of putting the bad guy down "hard".



Transference of kinetic energy from the projectile to your target typically measured in joules.

As stated plenty of times in similar threads; .22lr is better than nothing, but you are better off spending a couple of hundred bucks on a 9mm pistol or a cheap pump 12ga.

-Ruskie

That is "stopping power", not "knock down power". The projectile doesn't "knock down" anything.