Best round for self defense

[D-rek07]

I know this has been discussed before but a haven't seen new thread on it. First off, would it even be worth trying to use a .22? All I have is a 10/22. I want to know if there are any better options than CCI Stingers. Have any others come out since those? Thanks

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I'd say a .22 is a lot better than no gun at all. CCI Mini mag HP rounds cycled beautifully through my 10/22 so I'd use those.

[D-rek07]

I'd say a .22 is a lot better than no gun at all. CCI Mini mag HP rounds cycled beautifully through my 10/22 so I'd use those.

Wouldn't the extra velocity of the Stinger help a lot more?

[hermosabeach]

In the book "Monster- Confessions of an LA ganster" the author was lit up by a .22 with hollow points. Many hits to his back

It feels like the FBI tests want 12" +\- of penetration
.22 hollow points are designed to open/ expand in the first few inches of a Rabbit or Squirel

I would think you might be better off with a solid over the hollow points

If you search on u tube for 22 ballistic testing, you will see how different rounds work in media testing

[wjc]

7.62 NATO

Save your pennies.

[us3]

Wouldn't the extra velocity of the Stinger help a lot more?

Check out the ballistic testing vids between the CCI Stingers vs CCI Velocitors

The Velocitors with more weight had more penetration and expansion at 100 yards than the Stingers.

It was also noted that with the Stingers having a longer than normal case, they were not recommended to be shot out of some firearms.


I don't think you could go wrong with either of these rounds.

Matt

[shamaz]

I'm retired on a fixed income and will be experimenting with a Henry H001Y Youth carbine and Aguila Subsonic Sniper rounds--these have a 60 grain slug with a stated muzzle velocity of 950 fps. As a musician I like the idea of having a subsonic cartridge which can be fired without ear protection in a pinch.

[D-rek07]

Alright I have checked out a few videos and I think I will go with the Velocitor. Now would it be okay to get another magazine and just leave it filled with 10 of these and left near the gun? or would that wear out the spring?

[socal-shooter]

Nine milliforty caliber !!

Best round Evah!!

[D-rek07]

Nine milliforty caliber !!

Best round Evah!!

Well, since I said I only had a .22, I don't think those will work.

[socal-shooter]

Many people have Ben killed by .22s , just last week I read a story about a mother who had hone invaders , she killed one if the bad guys w/a .22 , she got a headshot.

People don't like to get shot Period, not even by a .22

[us3]

Alright I have checked out a few videos and I think I will go with the Velocitor. Now would it be okay to get another magazine and just leave it filled with 10 of these and left near the gun? or would that wear out the spring?

I looked into these 2 rounds before and like the Velocitors spec's better.

The Velocitors use a Gold Dot design cavity which I think that helps the expansion and weight retention.

Here's links to CCI with info on the rounds:

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=2&loadNo=0047

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=1&loadNo=0050

For defense rounds, I'm happy to pay a few bucks more

Matt


*EDIT*

as for vids, I saw one where a guy was shooting huge pieces of meat wraped in a few layers of denim from 300 yards I think, cool stuff

[Jack L]

Good article speaks some on .22 with chart of calibers

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/foghorn/ask-foghorn-22l-for-self-defense/

[redcliff]

Good article speaks some on .22 with chart of calibers

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-self-defense/

Take that chart with a large grain of salt. Since many of the reported shootings were police shootings, and due to the nature of many police shootings (more than one officer firing/sympathetic fire) the calibres most often used by police show performance in the graphs far worse than their actual results. His sources also included newspaper, magazine and internet "accounts" and we all know how accurate that is.

[Bartin]

Alright I have checked out a few videos and I think I will go with the Velocitor. Now would it be okay to get another magazine and just leave it filled with 10 of these and left near the gun? or would that wear out the spring?

Keeping a magazine loaded with the right ammo is the way to go. Leaving a spring compressed doesn't wear it out.