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  • Dannicus
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2577

    200yds scoped from a .22lr

    I've been thinking about stepping over into the 200 yard rifle range with my bolt action marlin. I don't want to get set up over there and find that I don't have enough elevation to reach.

    Does anyone know if a Simmons .22 mag 3-9x scope can get me out to 200 yards without maxing out?
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    Izzy43
    CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
    • Dec 2009
    • 2670

    According to the specs on that scope you have 70 inches of adjustment in elevation when zeroed @ 100yds. I have attached a ballistics table for .22lr 36gr highvelocity ammo with 1260fps @ the muzzle. The 70 inches of adjustment includes up/down so you will have approximately 35 inches of upwards elev adjustment available depending on the height of the center of the scope above the bore. I believe that you will be right on the edge of being able to zero at 200yds. Its gonna be close.
    Last edited by Izzy43; 10-01-2012, 3:51 PM.

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    • #3
      DVSmith
      Cantankerous old coot
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2007
      • 3702

      Nice research Izzy! I would love to hear your results Dannicus if you do this. What ammo, what the conditions were like. Pushing a .22 out that far sounds like a fun test.

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      • #4
        surfNshoot
        CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
        • Mar 2008
        • 1444

        According to the simons site your scope has 60moa of adjustment. This seams like it would be very close as my dope for my rifle is 27moa of drop at 200 yards with a 50yd zero. That would give 3moa of wiggle room. Not much.

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        • #5
          surfNshoot
          CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
          • Mar 2008
          • 1444

          haha. Izzy beat me again!!! The 4x has 70moa and the 3-9 has 60moa

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          • #6
            Izzy43
            CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
            • Dec 2009
            • 2670

            Originally posted by surfNshoot
            haha. Izzy beat me again!!! The 4x has 70moa and the 3-9 has 60moa
            Got the info on his scope from Amazon.com but I'll bet you are correct. I didn't check the Simmons site, my bad. The other drawback is that the adjustments will be nearly at max, not the best for tracking and accuracy but heck I'd give it a whirl. I did a similiar thing with my Nikon 3-9x BDC scope and it was fun and interesting. However I had the bullet drop compesating reticle which made it much easier.

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            • #7
              BucDan
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 4062

              I didn't think it was feasible to take a .22lr out to 200 yards! I thought everyone enjoyed it at 100 yards and less, I guess you my man, shoots for the record!

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              • #8
                Army
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3915

                You'll run out of top turret, but then only need to sight in on something above the target. We shoot to 300yds on 4" swingers at SLOSA, with an aim point roughly 3-4' above impact. Once you have the range locked in, it's really pretty easy to hit out there.

                Long range .22 shooting is ammo dependant. Standard velocity simply won't get out there with any authority, while high speed stuff is terribly variable between different manufacturers , even with the same bullet weight. Trajectory is plunging terrifically, so minor sight changes makes a huge movement downrange.
                "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                • #9
                  cudakidd
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 3275

                  We shoot a falling plate match every other month with a long range of 175 yards. 6" steel plate target.

                  It's doable with standard velocity High quality ammo, we use Ely Match or Wolf. The rainbow effect means you need lots of adjustment to cope with drop, your scope can do it with Shims BTW, since you did not mention a need to shoot a ranges closer then 100 yards!

                  Burris Signature Z rings will also help.
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                  Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                  Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                  The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
                  The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                  The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                  Are full of passionate intensity.

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                  • #10
                    50BMGBOB
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1738

                    Originally posted by BucDan
                    I didn't think it was feasible to take a .22lr out to 200 yards! I thought everyone enjoyed it at 100 yards and less, I guess you my man, shoots for the record!
                    I love shooting mine out to 200 yards at clays or steel swingers about the same size and can hit them consistantly. With a few wind flags, you can practice reading wind and get some small groups on paper too. On a good day, I average 2-3" for 5 shots.

                    I have two rifles with the same scope (BSA Sweet 22 6-18x), one bolt action that did just fine for a dead on hold but the 10/22 has a shorter barrel and I had to shim the scope base to get a dead on hold at 200 yards.

                    It is easier to find tapered bases for centerfire rifles than for rimfire ones. With the lower recoil of 22LR it is possible to shim inside the rings. I did this for a friend on his lever action where the base was built into the reciever.
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                    • #11
                      Izzy43
                      CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2670

                      These are available for Marlin, Savage and others: http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail....64824&CAT=3602

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                      • #12
                        Hughes500Pilot
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 59

                        Optics Planet sells a large selection of 20MOA down scope mounts. Here is one for a CZ452 22LR Bolt Action Rifle.





                        Another option is a dedicated scope designed for 22LR. Below is a link to a Pride Fowler 3-9 scope with built in bullet drop compensator. It is marked out to 200 yards. I have one. Simple to use... Just zero it at 50 yards and then you can shoot anything out to 200 yards all day long. -Steve



                        Last edited by Hughes500Pilot; 08-10-2012, 4:28 PM.

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                          I used to play by shooting the high powered Chickens at 200 meters with old small bore silloutte rifle. It took as many as 5 hits to knock them down but, we could consistantly hit them.
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                          • #14
                            Dannicus
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2577

                            Wow, thanks for the info, guys! I'll post up my results if I'm able to get out there tomorrow.

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                            • #15
                              G-forceJunkie
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 6310

                              We shoot a 200 yard prone match out here. The x ring is 4", 10 ring is 6" 9 rings is 8" and so on. Most matches are won with a 390 or so points out of 400 with 10-15 x's. 50% of the rifles on the line are nothing greater than a out of the box Savage, a 10/22 with a nice barrel and trigger work, or a CZ. 200 yard for a .22lr is well within its capabilitys, if the shooter is up to it.

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