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  • roushstage2
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2782

    Difference between CMMG uppers?

    I've got some AR lowers in jail and am just going to make a .22LR AR out of one of them. Might as well since I've got them. However, I see all kinds of CMMG uppers. What's the difference between them all? Just the FSB/gas block and barrel lengths? I've seen all over to go with the stainless bolt. I'd like to get the BHO option too; can I add that to any of the uppers?
  • #2
    bonesurf
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 2083

    BHO yes but the most common mags are the black dog and they will bolt hold on their own. The cmmg mags suck IME
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    • #3
      shadow65
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1301

      You haven't used the Gen ll's then.

      The only difference in the uppers is the FSB or gas block

      The M4 LE has an "F" marked front sight base
      The M4 LEP has the receiver height gas block--gives many more options for front sights

      The Sierra has a low gas block.

      I always recommend the stainless. It's stronger, smoother, uses less lube and stays cleaner longer.

      The Gen ll modular mags are required for BHOA use.
      The BHOA will drop into any of the CMMG uppers.

      The Gen l BHOA mags worked well in the beginning. I still use some. The later ones were out of spec and had issues hanging up. Also sucked to load.

      Dave N
      Independent Field Tester/Research and Developement

      Better to die for something than live for nothing

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      • #4
        bonesurf
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 2083

        Dunno I had gen 1 or 2. Sucky. I like BDM
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        • #5
          shadow65
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1301

          I tested for BDM and the steel feed lip X mags worked 100%
          Some that came out did have out of spec feed towers but BDM has great CS and replaced them for customers quickly.

          The BDM's will not operate the CMMG BHOA. The followers will hold the bolt back but the bolt slams shut when the mag is removed.

          The Gen ll CMMG mags will lock the bolt back when used with the BHOA, just like a standard AR.
          Dave N
          Independent Field Tester/Research and Developement

          Better to die for something than live for nothing

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          • #6
            NorCalDustin
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1463

            Originally posted by shadow65
            You haven't used the Gen ll's then.

            The only difference in the uppers is the FSB or gas block

            The M4 LE has an "F" marked front sight base
            The M4 LEP has the receiver height gas block--gives many more options for front sights

            The Sierra has a low gas block.

            I always recommend the stainless. It's stronger, smoother, uses less lube and stays cleaner longer.

            The Gen ll modular mags are required for BHOA use.
            The BHOA will drop into any of the CMMG uppers.

            The Gen l BHOA mags worked well in the beginning. I still use some. The later ones were out of spec and had issues hanging up. Also sucked to load.

            Dave N
            The Gen 2's are awesome... I also second the SS bolt...
            Originally posted by BannedinBritain
            The only dumb question is the one you don't ask...and get arrested for later.

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            • #7
              roushstage2
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2782

              Thanks for the clarification on things! So that's a definite yes on a stainless bolt then. Yes on the stainless collar too? I'll get the BHOA as I like that feature. Can I block the Gen II 25 round mags (may as well get the Gen II since they cost the same) so I have a 10/25?

              Looking like the M4 LEP is my choice thus far, unless someone can talk me into a different set-up?

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              • #8
                NorCalDustin
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1463

                The Stainless collar is nice... I really like it because its easier to clean up.

                As for the mags, get these: http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/item/...-Skin-Mag-1750

                They're full length mags that only hold 10 rounds... The nicest thing, is its CLEAR to everyone that it's a 10rd mag.

                The M4 LEP is a good option... You cant go wrong with CMMG + Stainless Bolt + BHO.
                Originally posted by BannedinBritain
                The only dumb question is the one you don't ask...and get arrested for later.

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                • #9
                  roushstage2
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2782

                  Originally posted by NorCalDustin
                  The Stainless collar is nice... I really like it because its easier to clean up.

                  As for the mags, get these: http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/item/...-Skin-Mag-1750

                  They're full length mags that only hold 10 rounds... The nicest thing, is its CLEAR to everyone that it's a 10rd mag.

                  The M4 LEP is a good option... You cant go wrong with CMMG + Stainless Bolt + BHO.
                  That's what I was hoping existed! Thanks for the link; bookmarked.

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                  • #10
                    nelly.hartley
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 17

                    It depends on if you want a dedicated 22 or a true AR platform to change out uppers at a later date.

                    A lot of people get the 15-22 for the cool factor or the close to the real thing ergonomics of the Big Brother for training purposes.

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                    • #11
                      roushstage2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 2782

                      I was going to get a 15-22, but since I purchased several lowers, I'm just going to make a dedicated .22 AR but with "real deal" metal parts. I already have one 5.56 AR and will have a couple of more, plus a 7.62 AR down the road. Not too worried at this point about buying a whole 'nother rifle so as to not tie up a lower.

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                      • #12
                        jerryl899
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 13

                        Any opinion on the Revolution handguard upgrade? Will it improve accuracy of 16" Light Weight .22 Upper? Thanks.

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                        • #13
                          shadow65
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1301

                          The Revolution, like any free float, can increase accuracy by not putting pressure on the barrel itself when using a torqued sling or resting on a bag.

                          It would be more noticable at longer distances.

                          The best feature of the Revolution hand guard is it's very lite weight and narrow. It also has the ability to add rail sections where you need them.
                          Dave N
                          Independent Field Tester/Research and Developement

                          Better to die for something than live for nothing

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                          • #14
                            gant
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1451

                            love mine! go dedicated always!,

                            it has the correct twist for the .22!, 1:16, go thru shadow65 well worth it!!!

                            m4LEP
                            stainless bolt and collar (lol whats the stainless collar? is it part of the bolt?)
                            revo hand 17 slot handguard

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                            • #15
                              jerryl899
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 13

                              Nice! Already contacted him. Thanks.

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