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  • pennys dad
    Arizona Ex-Pat
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2008
    • 5984

    AR-22 question

    Hey Everyone

    Here is my question:

    I am using a standard mil-spec AR lower on my 22lr dedicated CMMG upper.
    I want to somehow make the lower 22lr dedicated as well, if possible. Has anyone done this?
    Is there a lower out there that is marked 22lr?

    Any thoughts?
    Pennys Dad

    Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.
  • #2
    BigJ
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3172

    I have the exact same setup. But I'd never considered a dedicated 22lr lower. If you don't mind the slight derail, what would be the benefit?
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    • #3
      2shotjoe
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      • 26542

      mine is marked multi-cal, throw a radlock on it and you can turn the BB on when you have bigger cals on it.
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      • #4
        Bunsen
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 187

        Besides the caliber marking what would be the difference?
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        • #5
          AfghanVetOrcutt
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 391

          I use the same lower for my CMMG .22 upper as my 5.56 upper. No issues so far.

          The New Frontier Armory polymer lower seems to be a popular companion to the CMMG uppers. I know someone makes hammers that are thinner specifically for the .22 uppers but I don't know the manufacturer.

          I'm with BigJ, why?

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          • #6
            r1ghtw1ng
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 1335

            Spikes sells milspec lower receivers marked .22LR, but really, it's just a marking. I like my receivers to say multi-cal.

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            • #7
            • #8
              pennys dad
              Arizona Ex-Pat
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2008
              • 5984

              Originally posted by BigJ
              I have the exact same setup. But I'd never considered a dedicated 22lr lower. If you don't mind the slight derail, what would be the benefit?
              No benefit at all, I am 100% comfortable with my mil-spec lowers and their function and fit. This is more a matter of a stupid legal bull crap, heck I dont even switch uppers, but on my 22lr's I dont use bullet buttons, radlocks or anything.
              I know the lowers work no mater what, just wondering if there is a lower that at least says 22lr on it.
              Last edited by pennys dad; 07-05-2012, 2:47 PM.
              Pennys Dad

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              • #9
                pennys dad
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                • Feb 2008
                • 5984

                I did see someone once suggested pulling the spring and plug from the stock and replacing it with a non moving plug.
                Pennys Dad

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                • #10
                  AfghanVetOrcutt
                  Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 391



                  Just put that in front of your buffer and it's supposed to stiffen it up. I have one and I use it, no issues.

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                  • #11
                    BigJ
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 3172

                    Originally posted by pennys dad
                    No benefit at all, I am 100% comfortable with my mil-spec lowers and their function and fit. This is more a matter of a stupid legal bull crap, heck I dont even switch uppers, but on my 22lr's I dont use bullet buttons, radlocks or anything.
                    I know the lowers work no mater what, just wondering if there is a lower that at least says 22lr on it.
                    Hmm... ok... it sounds like you know this, but you don't need to use a bullet button on a lower that has a dedicated 22lr upper attached. That's not true with conversion kits (still need the BB), but when attached to a dedicated 22lr upper like ours, the BB can go away totally since the AW laws don't apply to rimfire rifles.

                    Does that help? I still feel like I might be missing what you're getting at here?

                    Originally posted by AfghanVetOrcutt
                    http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/TACC...essureplug.htm

                    Just put that in front of your buffer and it's supposed to stiffen it up. I have one and I use it, no issues.
                    Hmm... now that is interesting. I pulled my spring and buffer from the tube and set it aside, running the thing with nothing in there. And ran it for 300 rounds without any issues at all. The bolt springs back nice and hard (when clean) all on its own. Maybe this is needed for conversion kits but not the dedicated 22lr uppers?
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                    • #12
                      pennys dad
                      Arizona Ex-Pat
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5984

                      BigJ your not missing anything I am just wondering whats out there if anything that fully dedicates an AR 22 or what idea's are folks thinking through.

                      My 2 current rigs are:
                      CMMG dedicated 22lr on a CALGUNS/JD lower - multi cal
                      CMMG dedicated 22lr on a Stag lower 5.56 - will be changing this one to a Colt lower
                      I use no radlock or bullet button
                      Pennys Dad

                      Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.

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                      • #13
                        donw
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1754

                        Originally posted by pennys dad
                        Hey Everyone

                        Here is my question:

                        I am using a standard mil-spec AR lower on my 22lr dedicated CMMG upper.
                        I want to somehow make the lower 22lr dedicated as well, if possible. Has anyone done this?
                        Is there a lower out there that is marked 22lr?

                        Any thoughts?
                        bold is my emphasis...

                        yes..IF you can find them, Spikes Tactical and CMMG made a dedicated, lower in .22lr.

                        i have one...it's called ST-22 and is very clearly marked "22lr". it will accept centerfire uppers as well...i have 5.56 for it as well.

                        contact Spikes tactical...they may be able to help you: www.spikestactical.com

                        you can run it with or without the buffer spring and buffer when in .22lr...i leave it in mine for use with 5.56...the .22lr operates on its own spring and the BHO does not operate when using the 22lr but the mad dog mag is a bolt block after the last round and...the bolt closes when magazine is removed.

                        i do NOT use a BB on the .22lr...only when operating the 5.56
                        Last edited by donw; 07-05-2012, 3:33 PM.
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                        • #14
                          BigJ
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 3172

                          Originally posted by pennys dad
                          BigJ your not missing anything I am just wondering whats out there if anything that fully dedicates an AR 22 or what idea's are folks thinking through.

                          My 2 current rigs are:
                          CMMG dedicated 22lr on a CALGUNS/JD lower - multi cal
                          CMMG dedicated 22lr on a Stag lower 5.56 - will be changing this one to a Colt lower
                          I use no radlock or bullet button
                          Ah gotcha. Cool deal. Looking forward to learning right along with ya.

                          Originally posted by donw
                          you can run it with or without the buffer spring and buffer when in .22lr...i leave it in mine for use with 5.56...the .22lr operates on its own spring.
                          Good info, thanks!
                          "This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave." - Elmer Davis

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                          • #15
                            pennys dad
                            Arizona Ex-Pat
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5984

                            :-) I am now questing for Spikes and CMMG 22lr lowers

                            Originally posted by donw
                            bold is my emphasis...

                            yes..IF you can find them, Spikes Tactical and CMMG made a dedicated, lower in .22lr.

                            i have one...it's called ST-22 and is very clearly marked "22lr". it will accept centerfire uppers as well...i have 5.56 for it as well.

                            contact Spikes tactical...they may be able to help you: www.spikestactical.com

                            you can run it with or without the buffer spring and buffer when in .22lr...i leave it in mine for use with 5.56...the .22lr operates on its own spring and the BHO does not operate when using the 22lr but the mad dog mag is a bolt block after the last round and...the bolt closes when magazine is removed.

                            i do NOT use a BB on the .22lr...only when operating the 5.56
                            Pennys Dad

                            Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.

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