Not really but seeing as all of the folks with take down Rugers are wetting themselves over the new model; the S&W breaks down to a good length (24") and it is light, has good magazines, and takes a ton of bolt on stuff.
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That is the standard way an AR breaks down. Does the standard S&W M&P 15-22 not break down this way?
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I thought about the same thing but in reality the 10/22TD breaks down to a much more compact package and the lower sight height makes for a better survival rifle. The AR15 pistol grip and mag well add bulk that isn't found on the 10/22. The AR15-22 is usable but less than optimal in a survival situation.Last edited by sholling; 06-17-2012, 6:03 PM."Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--
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An AR in 22lr is a rifle for low cost practice/plinking (esp for practicing like you shoot for AR shooters) or one of the ultimate "form before function" rifles for anything else.
The 10/22, on the other hand, is a great boy's rifle, a fantastic first rifle, a decent survival rifle, can be taken in any number of directions from target to tacticool to tacticool target...
I love me my AR's in all of their many calibers, but there's no way a 15/22 is going to compete with a 10/22 on practicality.Last edited by rabagley; 06-18-2012, 1:47 AM."Ecuador offers the United States $23 million a year in economic aid, an amount similar to what we were receiving under the tariff benefits, with the purpose of providing human rights training that will contribute to avoid violations of people's privacy, that degrade humanity," --Fernando AlvaradoComment
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I talked to a friend that works at a gun shop. He said this variation of the 10/22 could develop head space problems. Ruger contemplated this and put in a screw so the head space adjustment could be made.I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.Comment
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I'm content with my 15-22, and it breaks down small enough for any of my transport needs... I agree with the 10/22 "boys rifle" comment... Lol
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Folks need to know the 15/22 isn't like the other .22lr ARs from Umarex or Mossber, which are ARs in look only.
Most of the parts of the 15/22 are compatible with centerfire ARs (most importantly the FCG) this gives it a huge potential to become just as big of a success as the 10/22 considering after market AR triggers are already available.
What the rifle really needs to become as precision capable as modified 10/22s is for vendors to offer a good aluminum upper receiver and match barrels, and that's pretty much it, almost all the other parts are directly compatible with centerfire AR15s.
The 15/22 has only been around for a few years, so its going to take a little while for it to pick up more aftermarket support, which however, is growing everyday. Many of the short comings, like the charging handle and safety have already been address by the aftermarket.Last edited by Mr. Meeseeks; 06-19-2012, 9:06 AM.Comment
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While I agree with your post in theory, I don't think that will ever happen. If you replace the upper receiver of an M&P 15/22 with a potentially expensive aluminum match upper and replace a bunch of accessories, what you have is a .22 AR with a polymer lower.Folks need to know the 15/22 isn't like the other .22lr ARs from Umarex or Mossber, which are ARs in look only.
Most of the parts of the 15/22 are compatible with centerfire ARs (most importantly the FCG) this gives it a huge potential to become just as big of a success as the 10/22 considering after market AR triggers are already available.
What the rifle really needs to become as precision capable as modified 10/22s is for vendors to offer a good aluminum upper receiver and match barrels, and that's pretty much it, almost all the other parts are directly compatible with centerfire AR15s.
The 15/22 has only been around for a few years, so its going to take a little while for it to pick up more aftermarket support, which however, is growing everyday. Many of the short comings, like the charging handle and safety have already been address by the aftermarket.
In that price range the user is better off buying or building a CMMG (or TacSol, etc.) .22LR AR-15 upper and investing in a dedicated lower for it. I think the M&P 15/22 is a neat rifle, is fairly priced, and is a great training platform. It's ability to use most standard AR15 parts is nice, but if you're going to modify it to that extent why not build a fully "AR-15 compatible" AR-15/22?Comment
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At first glance it's similar to an AR15 but the similarities end at the FCG, the sights, and the stock. Better triggers are easy and a gunsmith could probably make you a target barrel but that won't change the position of the sights which are too high for precision shooting at short distances. Sure you could dial it in for a fixed distance but you're only going to be accurate at that fixed distance. I see it's value is as an economical training tool which is why I bought mine. There are a whole lot of people that can't afford to take classes that require expending 2000rds of 5.56 but would take classes often if the instructors offered tactical classes based around the M&P15-22 as a stand-in for real AR15s. With an economy this tight it might even behoove a training facility to offer rentals and 30rd magazine rentals to attract students from non-free states. $500 for ammo vs $100 for rental fees and ammo is a no-brainer.Folks need to know the 15/22 isn't like the other .22lr ARs from Umarex or Mossber, which are ARs in look only.
Most of the parts of the 15/22 are compatible with centerfire ARs (most importantly the FCG) this gives it a huge potential to become just as big of a success as the 10/22 considering after market AR triggers are already available.
What the rifle really needs to become as precision capable as modified 10/22s is for vendors to offer a good aluminum upper receiver and match barrels, and that's pretty much it, almost all the other parts are directly compatible with centerfire AR15s.
The 15/22 has only been around for a few years, so its going to take a little while for it to pick up more aftermarket support, which however, is growing everyday. Many of the short comings, like the charging handle and safety have already been address by the aftermarket."Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--
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