10/22 TD Problem

[ADROCK]

Just got mine home, put it together and sure as shot, mine has the same problem. I called the store where I got it and they said that that is normal and that most take down rifles don't line up perfectly. I came right to CG to see if this is true. I didn't even have to start my own thread to ask the question. Not sure what is happening to Ruger. My SR-22 mags had to be replaced because they didn't fit in the magwell without forcing them in and then wouldn't come out (Ruger replaced them NQA).... now this. I am just thankful that the customer service is so good and easy to deal with, but, I wish I didn't have to utilize them on a brand new purchase.

[Maltese Falcon]

....oh just great, I pick mine up Saturday.

Good to know what to look out for though.

Thanks!

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[RJonesUSC]

I noticed mine was off as well but I was able to shift the forward part of the stock around the barrel enough to make it line up without too much effort. The sights seem to line up fine although I haven't shot it yet (I'm planning to this weekend). I do seem to recall that blemish in the magwell but I'll have to double check that when I get home.

[joefrank64k]

Add another to the pile...this thread motivated me to finally take my TD out of the box:

Misalignment:



More Misalignment:



Chipped edges at the top of the stock:



I'll be calling Ruger tomorrow morning...on the bright side, I get to wait for my TD all over again!

[Wrangler John]

My 10/22 TD did not have a problem with misaligned sights, the barrel and stock alignment is perfect. After mounting a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5x scope the first range trip resulted in misfires using Winchester High Speed ammo, at least two per magazine. The firing pin was striking the rims too high, a common problem with the 10/22. Trigger pull is also extremely heavy with too much creep.

I disassembled it back at the shop and found every screw in the rifle barely snugged down. Removing the action from the stock resulted in a cascade of pins falling out of the trigger housing, both Receiver Cross Pins (B-5) and the Magazine Latch Pivot Pin (B-35) fell onto the bench pad. Ruger cautions about the Receiver Cross Pins falling out when the action is removed from the stock, they were correct. I don't recall my older 10/22's having this problem, but they had metal trigger guards. This is a great feature when disassembly is necessary in the field, especially when the pins disappear as small parts are wont to do when they rebound off a tailgate.

The bolt assembly was saturated with oil, far too much in my opinion, so it went into the solvent tank and was reassembled with a light application of lube. Firing pin strikes were still too high. Rather than mess with it, I installed a Volquartsen firing pin which resulted in full strike patterns and consistent ignition of test rounds. Do not toss the receiver in a solvent tank, Ruger warns that the aluminum finish is a clear coat paint that will be damaged depending on the solvent used.

I also ordered an aftermarket trigger assembly as the plastic trigger guard housing and a 7 to 8 lb pull is not acceptable. I just don't have time to mess with reworking the factory trigger.

Next thing I noticed was that the barrel/forend assembly was now loose when locked into place. I found that the Clamp (9) which replaces the Barrel Retainer-V Block (B-66) on the standard 10/22 was loose. The two screws were not even hand tight. After tightening them down the barrel wouldn't slide into position. Disassembling the clamp disclosed a large aluminum burr on the right side of the receiver extension. After removal the clamp was tightened down again with the same result, the barrel wouldn't slide into position. Leaving the clamp loose allowed the barrel to be assembled, and if carefully adjusted to just the right amount of looseness the barrel would slide into position and rotate until it locked. Of course it will shoot loose leaving the barrel to wobble laterally. I'll order another clamp and try hand fitting the mating surface until the barrel will work with the clamp tightened down.

I wouldn't normally go through all this, but this little rifle is an ideal survival package to keep in the pickup. It just has to be reliable. My first impression of the TD was that Ruger had hit a home run, but now it appears that it was more of a base hit. I hope that in time they get it worked out. It was quite an experience since my last 10/22 was a 1970's vintage - that was quite a rifle.

[DinoPJR]

It seems like they are all like that. All i know is that I have shot over 1000 rounds through mine and it shoots like a champ! No Jams and hitting right on target. So I will keep an eye on this thread to see if they correct that problem. If not, it is still a straight shooter!

[RJonesUSC]

I noticed mine was off as well but I was able to shift the forward part of the stock around the barrel enough to make it line up without too much effort. The sights seem to line up fine although I haven't shot it yet (I'm planning to this weekend). I do seem to recall that blemish in the magwell but I'll have to double check that when I get home.

Checked it when I got home. Just some slight marks in the mag well but that's about it. We'll see how it shoots on Saturday at the Firing Line.

[coolname74]

The stock seems a little...crumbly. It looks like it breaks if it gets hit on the edge. ? The gouges in my mag well seemed to scratch pretty easily with my fingernail. I think the aftermarket stocks will be great.

[bohoki]

ooh i got to call up and get the forearm for my agp folder

[DinoPJR]

so if you send it back to ruger how long will it take? I already waited a boat load to get this gun I don't really feel like waiting another month to get the gun back. I am still gonna call ruger today. Really like the gun though if the sights are off they aren't off by much because I have been pretty well on target everytime I shoot it. What a bummer though!

[Wrangler John]

Solved the problem of the loose barrel clamp. The barrel clamp (9) had to be completely loose or the barrel would not slide into the receiver or rotate to lock. The barrel clamp appears to be a MIM part which is installed as molded. Because there is no fitting of the clamp, it would not allow the barrel to install if its retaining screws were tightened, so Ruger simply left the screws loose so the clamp would slop fit. This allowed the barrel clamp to loosen from the receiver and the barrel to shift around destroying accuracy.

It may not have mattered so much using the open sights, as both are mounted on the barrel, but with a scope mounted on the receiver, the barrel could shift laterally and be pointing away from the aiming point.

I removed the clamp and honed its top surface using a carborundum stone until it was almost flat. Working a little at a time, the barrel finally slid in and locked with the clamp secured to the receiver. A .0015" thickness gauge fit between the barrel flat and the clamp. The clamp screws were coated with an anti-galling compound and tightened to 40 in/lbs. Both sections are stable now and easily assemble/disassemble. Total time was less than 30 minutes.

Ruger made a nice kit, pleasing me greatly with another problem solving challenge.

[redhemi]

I guess I got lucky with mine. No chips or gouges and the alinement is almost spot on. I have already run a couple of hundred rounds through it and with the exception of 5 FTEs it has performed very well. I can't wait to get a scope on it.

The one thing I am not impressed with is that the manuel supplied does not specifically cover the TD model which I think Ruger needs to cover. I did go to Rugers website and got this. https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/...D-3fje6z61.pdf

Maybe this could help in making a small adjustment for better alinement. Now if we could only get that 25 round mag (wishful thinking).

[SoCal Bob]

Mine had a minor stock alignment problem too but I was able to correct it.

The barrel retainer screws (#10 on the Ruger 10/22 TD insert), take a 5/32 allen wrench.
Loosen the barrel retainer screws just enough so that the clamp (#9) can move but not so it is loose.
Attach the barrel section and rotate it to where the stocks are properly aligned.
Remove the barrel and re-tighten the screws.
Both sections should now be aligned.

Ruger 10/22 TD insert - https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/...D-3fje6z61.pdf

[DinoPJR]

Cool I might try that socal bob. Thanks

[BBJohnnyT]

Mine had a minor stock alignment problem too but I was able to correct it.

The barrel retainer screws (#10 on the Ruger 10/22 TD insert), take a 5/32 allen wrench.
Loosen the barrel retainer screws just enough so that the clamp (#9) can move but not so it is loose.
Attach the barrel section and rotate it to where the stocks are properly aligned.
Remove the barrel and re-tighten the screws.
Both sections should now be aligned.

Ruger 10/22 TD insert - https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/...D-3fje6z61.pdf

Thank you, you're a genius! Mine was out of alignment by about 1/16". It was still within adjustment range of my Williams peep on the receiver, so I thought I would just live with it instead of going through the hassle of returning it to Ruger. Using this fix, my barrel is now in perfect alignment. Basically, there is about a full 1/8" play available in the clamp (#9) once you loosen the bolts (#10). That allows you to fine tune where the forend stock/barrel stops once you rotate it into the receiver.

Edit: I also noticed that the clamp retainer hex bolts (#10) were loose, and I shot only about 300 rounds so far. Everyone with a new 100/22 (takedown or not), should check for tightness on all of their bolts and screws.