The true test of the .17 hmr's Max Range

[OutlawDon]

Cute story and cute rifle.

Leave the kid alone. He's riding high on his 17hmr caliber like when we first got our Red Ryder bb gun as a child.

All kidding aside...good effort and glad you are so passionate about shooting. But let's not get our head into outer space thinking we did something extraordinary shooting a $300 gun spitting dingleberries at long distance with some chance and luck thrown in. Your budget setup might be the world to you, I understand, but let's come back down to earth.

Anything can be shot in the wind. And a 17hmr can easily travel for over 1.5 miles. What you did is simply found an angle that you were able to lob them to 800 yards with some consistency.

Have some humility bro. Not some random self-claimed world record feat. Pretty silly.

[NytWolf]

I think everyone would be easier on the kid if he weren't so arrogant in his post. His choice words (and taunts) are just ... how do you say ... asking for it.

[MyOdessa]

at 800 yards, i was aiming at about 100-150 feet above the target, ,

Now this is just plain stupid. This is called shooting in the air, who knows where other bullets landed. If I were a range master there and saw you pull this crap, I'd send you packing.

[OutlawDon]

[drifter2be]

I think everyone would be easier on the kid if he weren't so arrogant in his post. His choice words (and taunts) are just ... how do you say ... asking for it.

Precisely. I look at the threads in the rimfire section occasionally, and all his post about his 17 have had this hint of arrogance in them. Posts like the OP and the posts he made on rimfire central do not surprise me at all. What he needs is a large slice of humble pie.

[Fadedline]

[CSACANNONEER]

Now this is just plain stupid. This is called shooting in the air, who knows where other bullets landed. If I were a range master there and saw you pull this crap, I'd send you packing.

So, what is the cut off for safe hold over? Would 10 feet be too much? How about 30 feet? Choose your answer wisely. BTW, some ranges allow artillary to be fired. What should these ranges be limited to?

[Oneaudiopro]

You did not test the 17 HMR at 800 yards. You lobbed a bunch of bullets down range and accidently landed near the target. Read the ballistics of the 17 caliber bullets and tell us how much it drifts with a 2 MPH wind at 1,000 yards.

It's on par with a full court swish

[Spaceghost]

Spencer,

I feel bad for you. When I was 21, I said all kinds of stupid remarks, but was very lucky there wan't the internet to document my ill tempered remarks forever. I will not comment on your miracle shot, but the way you come across in the original post doesn't build a good user reputation. Keep shooting and really, really think before you post is the best advice I can give you.

[spencerk]

you guys spit all sorts of **** about humility and then call me out for trying sometng out of the box that was simply tons of fun to do and you even try to bring me down for that

and sorry but a bunch of "old timers" are arrogant too. some on other forums talked **** about me based simply on age and the fact that they hadnt tried to do it.

and 15 rounds all landing in a straight line then hitting the target isnt as much luck as it is calculated adjustments using the help of the worlds best wind doper and ive done months worth of research on the .17 hmr and records and the furthest recorded shot prior to mine was taken was on game at 450ish yards.

and i never said the .17 is going to be the ulitimate round or anything. I just want to have fun with it and anybody who gives me **** for that can frankly **** the hell off because im sick and tired of people trying to put me down for trying something different.

and sorry if my posts seem to be oriented all around .17's. maybe i just hapen to like some of the oddball cartriges for myself. I have never tried to convince anyone that they would be better off with a .17 for anything. I never intend on hunting passed 300 yards in general. i just like pushing the envelope.

and good job making this post into a complete waste of internet space... something constructive could have come of it...


It really feels like alot of you arent reading everything because i said possible world record. if someone has gone further please enlighten me because after hours and hours and hours of research I still cant find a further shot.


and if i was truely arrogant i would have made a direct comparison between my skills and all of your skills. I DONT know your skills so i cant. some of you are saying "randomly lobbing bullets" and that is just not the case.


and good job judging my character without ever meeting me, i never did anything of the sort to any of you.

[spencerk]

you guys spit all sorts of **** about humility and then call me out for trying sometng out of the box that was simply tons of fun to do and you even try to bring me down for that

and sorry but a bunch of "old timers" are arrogant too. some on other forums talked **** about me based simply on age and the fact that they hadnt tried to do it.

and 15 rounds all landing in a straight line then hitting the target isnt as much luck as it is calculated adjustments using the help of the worlds best wind doper and ive done months worth of research on the .17 hmr and records and the furthest recorded shot prior to mine was taken was on game at 450ish yards.

and i never said the .17 is going to be the ulitimate round or anything. I just want to have fun with it and anybody who gives me **** for that can frankly **** the hell off because im sick and tired of people trying to put me down for trying something different.

and sorry if my posts seem to be oriented all around .17's. maybe i just hapen to like some of the oddball cartriges for myself. I have never tried to convince anyone that they would be better off with a .17 for anything. I never intend on hunting passed 300 yards in general. i just like pushing the envelope.

and good job making this post into a complete waste of internet space... something constructive could have come of it...

[roushstage2]

When you are shooting in a "rainbow arc" by aiming 50 yards above the target, you aren't precision shooting (you said you weren't trying to do that, thereby assuming you meant you were just trying to get the round to hit the target); you are mortaring a round. You can get upset about people saying that all you want, but that's the fact. If you aimed 100 yards up above your target, would the round have gone farther? If yes, then what? You found a better angle to lob a round the farthest distance. People who need to make long shots count aren't taking 15 practice shots to get their bullet close to the target before shooting the shot that hits.

The record you speak of I'd imagine means that the round actually took game at that distance. They didn't simply keep aiming higher and higher into the air until it hit their target 15 shots later. If that's not the case, then it's a useless record and they got lucky their target didn't simply move along while shots were landing all around it.

Complete waste of internet space? Not likely. It shows that the round can make it out that far, which is what I'm assuming you were trying to prove, no? Not a "I shot 1MOA at 800 yards in 10MPH winds with a .17HMR," right? However, where you made the wrong turn so to speak, was calling people fools and arrogant because they said it couldn't be done. Had you just left it at "I did it even though everyone told me I couldn't have," you probably wouldn't be getting ragged on.

[ThE_LoNgShOt]

the bottom line is pretty much anyone here could do what you did.... aim incrementally higher above the target until you eventually hit it. you accomplished that in 15 shots. some here may have had to take more shots to inevitability find that target, and some may have hit it sooner. but, with enough shots down range, anyone who can shoot would have eventually had the exact same result as you. unfortunately, some of your brash comments do show your age. as you get a few more miles on you, you'll likely learn to communicate with a bit more tact. if you want people to take you seriously, and hear what you have to say, don't insult them in the process of making your point....

[CSACANNONEER]

So you banged a high profile drunk chick after 14 attempts and now you think you're all that. LOL, you need to understand a lot more before you can claim to be the great "I bang high profile chicks" dude. Anyone can get lucky once in a while. When it comes to precision shooting, consistancy means everything and bragging about a golden BB shot is a sure sign of someone who does not have a clue about shooting. The fact you are trying to learn and pushing limits is something to be proud of. The fact that you have studied on the internet for a whole month, took 15 shots into space and ended up with one confirmed "hit" (was it in the black or just somewhere on a 72" x72" target?) does not make you an expert or prove anything other than a .17hmr projectile can travel that distance. No one is trying to insult you but, you seem to be trying to insult everyone who has not praised you for your god like feats. The only thing your age has to do with this is it does help explain the imature way you are acting. Now that you are 21, it's time to grow up and realize that you are no longer 16 and you no longer know more than your elders. Hopefully, you have the capacity to understand this post. If not, you're just another example of our failing public educational system.

[Merc1138]

CSACANNONEER, you can see his high profile 800 yard hit here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4&postcount=71

spencerk, holy crap dude... calm down.

I don't understand why lobbing a .17hmr is such a feat to you, nor do I particularly care. The thing you don't seem to understand is, why no one else really cares. I suck at shooting, good enough to impress my friends who have shot a whole lot less than I have, but I admit I'm not very good. However, lobbing rounds down range is something I know for a fact I could do, as could someone who has never touched a firearm before with a little coaching. It might take them more shots, but they'd eventually do it. Had you shot something resembling a group(even 3 shots?) I could see a reason for boasting about such a feat, but that didn't happen.

Instead you seem to have the idea in your head that a .17hmr could never travel 800 yards and you've done the world a favor by proving the internet wrong(saw your post on the other forum, I'm shocked this didn't get locked as quickly) and defending the poor underdog .17hmr. But the thing is, no one ever said the round couldn't travel that far. So instead of "hey guys, I was bored at the range and managed this shot" you're raging against some non-existent machine and have only managed to piss people off who would have otherwise been indifferent.

I see 2 basic options for you.

1. Just drop it and move on with your life. You'll go to the range again eventually, maybe shoot some other guns and meet other people.

2. Go back to the range and hit it at 800 yards again, and again, and again, etc. to prove yourself right to the people on the internet who you think have done you wrong by doubting the distance that .17hmr can travel, but show that it can be done with some accuracy.