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  • point1
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 86

    Appleseed .22lr rifle

    Hello all,

    I'm still a noob so pardon me for asking what maybe a stupid or uninformed questions.

    I am looking for a good (hopefully not too expensive) .22lr rifle because I want to attend an upcoming Appleseed (one in Corona)

    I am looking at a Marlin 795 because of the cost (on sale right now at Turners). I am probably going to add a scope (Barska Plinker-22 Scope 3-9 x 32) along with that.

    The other option and it is more expensive is a Savage 93FVSS-XP. Can you guys give me a recommendation, pros or cons with the ones I listed. Feel free to recommend others as well (I shot a 10/22 and really liked it but from what I read the Marlin is just as good)

    The Savage is a long shot because it costs quite a bit more (though it comes with optics, not sure if it is any good though)

    I'm looking for a good rifle to help me become a better marksman without breaking the bank (cost of ammo, etc...)

    thanks in advance!
  • #2
    cbaer5
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 746

    have you considered a Ruger 10 22? I just bought one for the same reasons and they are on sale too for $210 at turners.

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    • #3
      Eljay
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4985

      The Marlin 795 and the Ruger 10/22 seem to be the two most popular. Isn't the Savage a bolt action? That's definitely not going to make things easy on the timed stuff, although if that's what you want to shoot, go for it.

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      • #4
        agroman2001
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 84

        I have a 795 that I love. I got it from Big 5 for $109 after mail in rebate. I have not had a single problem with it and I've been shooting that Remington gold that everyone seems to hate. Had I known, at the time of purchase, that I could wait and get a 10/22 on sale for around $200. I would have waited. I don't regret the purchase at all, I just think the ruger is a better, nicer looking gun. And there's a lot more parts and accessories for the ruger.

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        • #5
          ERdept
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2009
          • 4698

          Get the 10/22, LOTS of aftermarket.

          Marlin has the techsights and stock only as aftermarket.

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          • #6
            point1
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 86

            you are right on the Savage, it is a bolt action... scratch that..

            I did consider the Ruger 10/22 but like I mentioned, from what I read the 795 is equal to the task and is less expensive (would rather put the extra cash on scope and ammo)

            So 795 plus Barska scope can't be beat?

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            • #7
              pennys dad
              Arizona Ex-Pat
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2008
              • 5984

              Originally posted by point1
              Hello all,

              I'm still a noob so pardon me for asking what maybe a stupid or uninformed questions.

              I am looking for a good (hopefully not too expensive) .22lr rifle because I want to attend an upcoming Appleseed (one in Corona)

              I am looking at a Marlin 795 because of the cost (on sale right now at Turners). I am probably going to add a scope (Barska Plinker-22 Scope 3-9 x 32) along with that.

              The other option and it is more expensive is a Savage 93FVSS-XP. Can you guys give me a recommendation, pros or cons with the ones I listed. Feel free to recommend others as well (I shot a 10/22 and really liked it but from what I read the Marlin is just as good)

              The Savage is a long shot because it costs quite a bit more (though it comes with optics, not sure if it is any good though)

              I'm looking for a good rifle to help me become a better marksman without breaking the bank (cost of ammo, etc...)

              thanks in advance!
              Go get it, you have a great combination of tools, add 2 extra mags, sling and you are set.
              Pennys Dad

              Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.

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              • #8
                Raptor3000
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 2837

                Guys,

                Barska Plinker-22 Scope 3-9 x 32 or Barska Plinker-22 4X32 scope for Marlin 795?

                whats the difference?

                thanks

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                • #9
                  pennys dad
                  Arizona Ex-Pat
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5984

                  get the 3x9, you will want variable power
                  Pennys Dad

                  Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.

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                  • #10
                    AragornElessar86
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1735

                    The shoot is really aimed at a detachable mag, semi auto. Stick with the major names and you'll be fine. The nice thing about 10/22s at Appleseed is that EVERYONE has them there, so if something goes wrong, someone will almost certainly be able to help you get back up and running.
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                    • #11
                      EddieEd
                      Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 285

                      I was thinking about the Appleseed too and want to take it in the Bay area in a month or so.
                      My understanding is that it's to get you to shoot a target a 500 yrds, isn't a .22 a bit too low on the juice to try for a target at 500 yrds?

                      I mean for a .22---
                      Muzzle velocity: 1235 fps. Velocity at 100 yards: 1026 fps

                      A Quote here:
                      .22 LR is effective to 150 yards (140 m), though practical range tends to be less. After 150 yards the ballistics of the round are such that the large "drop" will be difficult to compensate.

                      I mean correct me here, but even though they said a .22 cartridge can have a ballistic range of up to 1.5 miles, you might have to aim at the moon more or less to hit your target. Is this something to use to get your Appleseed patch on a one or two day shoot?
                      I was just wondering because I wanted to take a Kel Tec SU16 that shoot .223 and I wasn’t sure that would be good enough for 500 yrd targeting.

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                      • #12
                        sevensix2x51
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3835

                        As far as I know, most appleseeds are shot at 25 yards. The targets are just really small, to simulate a 4moa target at up to 4-500yd. Does that make sense?

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                        • #13
                          EddieEd
                          Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 285

                          Originally posted by sevensix2x51
                          As far as I know, most appleseeds are shot at 25 yards. The targets are just really small, to simulate a 4moa target at up to 4-500yd. Does that make sense?

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                          • #14
                            AragornElessar86
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1735

                            There are a couple reasons they do 25m only, but I believe the primary one is just that it gives them a lot more available ranges. It's not a perfect system, but the training is certainly quality and the intent is for you to take what you learn and apply it in whatever situation you find yourself.

                            YMMV
                            Wish I was rich instead of so damn good looking.
                            Originally posted by stix213
                            I'll worry about Hannibal Lecter having too many rights when the rest of us get ours in the first place.
                            Originally posted by Just Dave
                            Any American who isn't on a government watch list should be ashamed of themselves.

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                            • #15
                              sevensix2x51
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3835

                              Originally posted by EddieEd
                              Hmm... Didn't know this, it doesn't make sense to me if they want to get you to shoot a target at 500 yrds and it's all simulated.

                              Shooting actual and shooting simulated is too different animal.

                              <snip>
                              wow, that's a lot of words.

                              It's actually not much different at all. hitting a one inch silhouette at 25yd or a 20" silhouette at 500yd still requires mastery of the six steps of firing the shot. the sight adjustments are different, and improper form is exaggerated, but the principles of a 4moa shot are the same. that is the whole point of appleseed, to build a proper foundation in the fundamentals of marksmanship, and to learn how marksmanship set America free from oppression. Not to win some award or certificate.

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