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  • nrakid88
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3285

    Matech for a .22 AR, calculations.

    Matech for .22? This is minus my calculations and tables. But should be close. Your welcome to anyone interested. Apparently if I zero my .22lr ar at 100, with a matech, I can be close to zero at 200 yards with the 600 yard setting. Not much range. I might stick with my MBUS.

    Matech calibrations. 55gr m193 14.5’’ 3000fps .243 bc 200 yard zero
    10mph wind

    matech drop for moa
    100- no setting
    200- 0 moa
    300- 2.9moa
    400- 6.8moa
    500- 11.3moa
    600- 17.8moa

    ( i think, since there are inbetween around 450, 550, 650? on the matech each click is 3 moa elevation)


    .22lr trajectory
    Cci mini mag 40 gr 1245 fps, bc .138, 100 yard zero 10 mph wind


    50 yard zero
    100 – 5.6 moa drop
    200- 21moa



    100 zero drop
    200- 15.1 moa drop
    300- 36moa drop
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    donw
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1754

    are you talking about the standard A2 sights on an M4 based carbine? I'm not familiar with matech...

    standard M4 (A2) sights have a 'mechanical' zero out to 300 yds. they are pretty well "dead on" accurate with the .22lr of my ST-22 when shooting all .22lr rounds i use within 50-75 yards.
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    • #3
      G-forceJunkie
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2010
      • 6392

      Originally posted by nrakid88
      I can be close to zero at 200 yards with the 600 yard setting. Not much range.
      Its a .22 LR with iron sites, you need more than 200 yards? I shoot tactical bolt action .22 matches out to 200 yards, as well as a 200 yard prone match with a scoped .22lr. 200 yards with a .22lr is like 800 yards with a .308 in terms of drop and effects of wind. I think your barking up the wrong tree (or a tree that doesnt exist) if you are trying to shoot a .22lr with iron sites beyond 200 yards. But thanks for the info, I was just thinking the other day how that site would regulate on my new Tac Sol .22 upper.

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        nrakid88
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 3285

        I just thought the info might help someone. I excluded the math because the tables wouldn't copy over.

        I was actually out today and shooting at 400 yards with my .22 and a 4 power scope.Slightest wind difference meant I was left, right, high, or low... of my target. Tagged it a few times though
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        5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
        Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
        You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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        • #5
          G-forceJunkie
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 6392

          You can lob them in at that range, but that just straight up lobing them in, mortar style I'd have to check my dope, but with a typical 50 yard zero your looking at about a 30 foot holdover. A couple MPH wind is going to move it several feed as well. I would like to see if you could do the math for that site with a 25 yard zero. Should give you a real usable, adjustable iron site for iron site appropriate ranges with a .22lr

          PS: Arnt those sites graduated in meters?
          Last edited by G-forceJunkie; 08-29-2011, 10:21 PM.

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          • #6
            G-forceJunkie
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 6392

            Ok, got off my *** and pulled out my dope card. With the Wolf Match i shoot (40 gr, 1050 fps) and a 50 yard zero, it would look like this:


            200- 50 yd zero
            300- 75 yard
            400- 102 yds
            500- 130 yds
            600- 170 yds

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            • #7
              nrakid88
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 3285

              Thank you for helping out G force.

              I am just thinking that for my uses, hunting and plinking, my MBUS withh 50 and 100 yard zero's is just fine. I can hold over for longer shots (which honestly I probably wouldn't take since I can't see small critters that far)

              Does seem that the MatTech would make a handy 50-170 yard sight. I might throw it on my 22 if I get a LMT rear for my 5.56
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              5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
              Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
              You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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              • #8
                nrakid88
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 3285

                Wow. For a 25 yard zero this gets cooler!

                200 setting- 0 Yards, 1.5" high

                200 setting- 25 yards, zero

                200 setting- 50 yards, zero

                300 setting- 75 yards, maybe 1/4 inch high

                400 setting- 100 yards, 1.2 inches high

                450 setting- 125 yards, .25 inches low

                500 setting- 150 yards, 2.2 inches low

                550 setting- 175 yards, 4.25 inches low

                600 setting- 200 yards, 8 inches low


                Thats seriously not too bad. I mean, in a semi auto, shooting varmints, you can go from 25 yards to 200 in a snap. Plus, you won't know if your varmint is at 200 or 175, so your guesstimate of range, and your semi-close calibrated irons will get you close, and you can see the dirt splash to compensate for your next round.

                I think my matech has found a new home!!!!
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                5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                • #9
                  nrakid88
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3285

                  Range Velocity Impact Drop ToF Energy Drift
                  0 1280 -1.5 0 0 131 0
                  25 1185 0 0.82 0.06 112 0.84
                  50 1112 -0.04 3.19 0.13 99 2
                  75 1054 -1.85 7.32 0.2 89 3.82
                  100 1007 -5.62 13.41 0.27 81 6.25
                  125 968 -11.54 21.65 0.35 75 9.21
                  150 935 -19.77 32.21 0.43 70 12.67
                  175 905 -30.5 45.26 0.51 65 16.58
                  200 878 -43.87 60.95 0.59 62 20.93

                  this chart is for a Remington gold bullet, 1260 fps, .123 BC, 10 mph cross wind
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                  5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                  Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                  You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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