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  • #16
    Flyingpootang
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 142

    The factory Target models are cheaper than building one if you like the way it's set up. The trigger group has the standard stiff trigger pull. If your looking for an accurate rifle that will shoot better than most people skill level without spending money, loose the front barrel band (0.00), bed/pillar the action (20.00), and drop in a Volquartson trigger/hammer/spring/shim kit (35.00) above the cost of a stock 10/22. All the info can be found at rimfirecentral under 10/22 tips and tricks.

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    • #17
      Kendoka
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Nov 2008
      • 80

      I agree with Resident Shooter. Nothing wrong with a basic Ruger model. If you do want to improve it, start with a trigger action kit upgrade (check Brownells for a number of choices) and a lightweight Hogue stock at $80 online (which is a cheap way to get rid of the barrel band). The trigger choices are many, but even if you buy a replacement drop in trigger like Volquartsen or Jard, you can keep it around $200. Lots of barrel choices for $200 or less if you don't like the stock barrel. Buy a used 10 22 for cheap and add the upgrades. You should be able to do that for $800 or less even replacing the barrel.

      After 2 intense years of 10 22 project guns, I (like other on this forum it seems) strongly recommend Tony Kidd for the ultimate 10 22. But it will be tough (maybe real tough...okay, damned near impossible) to do a total Kidd rifle for $800, but check him out at CoolGuyGuns.com. (He even builds a threaded receiver that eliminates the "barrel droop" issue of the Ruger v-block. He and Maripat (his wife) are a pleasure to work with. And his stuff just WORKS.

      I had much less luck with Tactical Solutions. I could write a book about that, but I don't really want to talk too badly about a manufacturer who may just be suffering from growing too fast. But I wouldn't recommend them even though I did finally get a TacSol Xring receiver and barrel running well with a Volquartsen drop in trigger (after two returns to TacSol and finally the replacement of the receiver with a new one).

      By the way, my experience is centered around a "run and gun" approach, like Ruger Challenge, etc. My goal has been to build a very quick, accurate to 50 yards and very reliable rifle that I shoot with a red dot (an Aimpoint H1 to be exact). My advice may not be too valuable if you are building something to shoot off a bench at 100 meters or shoot small bore silhouette (except the part about recommending Tony Kidd).

      Post a picture when you get your rifle configured.
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      • #18
        bug_eyedmonster
        • Oct 2007
        • 3639

        I went through this some time ago with my girlfriend. She was tired of shooting the standard Ruger 10/22 I've had since I was nine, so I decided to build her one of her own instead of ripping into the one my father bought me years ago. I initially thought of buying a base 10/22, but after looking at everything I was going to replace, I saved up more pennies and bought her a Volquartsen receiver. Afterwards, I got the trigger group, the barrel, Boyd's stock, and to top it off, some nice glass. I've been able to shoot a ground squirrel in the head at 158 yards (measured with a range finder) without a problem. If you are working with a limited budget like I was, buy the parts in groups... It's so much easier than trying to buy a factory 10/22 just to throw it all away. It also makes things easier than buying small parts here and there... headache free =).

        Too bad, after all that work, she shot it a few times and got bored with it. Now it's my varmit gun, so all is not lost.

        Jerry
        The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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        • #19
          helpme
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 669

          Originally posted by bug_eyedmonster
          I went through this some time ago with my girlfriend. She was tired of shooting the standard Ruger 10/22 I've had since I was nine, so I decided to build her one of her own instead of ripping into the one my father bought me years ago. I initially thought of buying a base 10/22, but after looking at everything I was going to replace, I saved up more pennies and bought her a Volquartsen receiver. Afterwards, I got the trigger group, the barrel, Boyd's stock, and to top it off, some nice glass. I've been able to shoot a ground squirrel in the head at 158 yards (measured with a range finder) without a problem. If you are working with a limited budget like I was, buy the parts in groups... It's so much easier than trying to buy a factory 10/22 just to throw it all away. It also makes things easier than buying small parts here and there... headache free =).

          Too bad, after all that work, she shot it a few times and got bored with it. Now it's my varmit gun, so all is not lost.

          Jerry
          Appreciate the advice man. If you're looking to get rid of your girlfriends toy I'm sure you can find some takers on this site

          Would you mind posting some pictures? I'm interested to see the beast.

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          • #20
            helpme
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 669

            Also, like some of you were saying, I'm leaning towards starting this custom 10/22 build WITHOUT a stock 10/22. It seems like all the parts are going to just end up getting thrown away...

            Anyone want to talk me out of this/tell me why I'm wrong before I start getting these parts ordered?

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            • #21
              bug_eyedmonster
              • Oct 2007
              • 3639

              Originally posted by helpme
              Appreciate the advice man. If you're looking to get rid of your girlfriends toy I'm sure you can find some takers on this site

              Would you mind posting some pictures? I'm interested to see the beast.
              If I sold this, she'd kick my butt. I actually bought/built this for her as a birthday present, she was pretty upset when I changed the scope out from the Leupold (in the for sale section) and put the Redfield in it's place with different rings. I'll see if I can attach pictures when I have a chance to snap some shots, I dunno how to post them up otherwise... =)

              Jerry
              The inconvenience of poor quality lingers long after the thrill of a good bargain.

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              • #22
                Gem1950
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2876

                Midway has this trigger group on sale http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=736286
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                • #23
                  Flyingpootang
                  Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 142

                  Originally posted by TomV
                  Might want to look at the CZ's. 452, 453 or 455's. Same kind of price range, but a Bolt Action. Lots of good information on them at theRimFireCentral site.
                  Excellent advise on the CZ. I have a pillar/bedded CZ 452 Varmint .22LR 4x scope and was hitting a wire as thick as a coat hanger at 50 yards using Federal Bulk ammo from Walmart.

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                  • #24
                    sig808
                    Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 419

                    Have u checked out Clarks custom barreled actions? Add a boyds stock for another $100 and for a little more than the original budget u are good to go. They guarantee MOA.

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                    • #25
                      sig808
                      Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 419

                      Oh.....like everyone else has said. Rimfirecentral is a fantastic resource. U may even find your dream build for sale.

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                      • #26
                        Kryptyde
                        Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 109

                        As others have posted, KID is the way to go for custom 10/22 parts. Tony Kidd is not only a pleasure to deal with but a master gunsmith who worked as a gunsmith for the US Armed Forces for many years. The machine-work, precision, design and operation of his products is fantastic. Its really hard to buy a truly high quality product these days, but here is such an opportunity. As you will find when you do your research, virtually no one has anything bad to say about KID products and they are generally considered the best, equal to the best, or leaps and bounds better than the rest (like his trigger groups).

                        Why such glowing praise? Well I'm the (very) proud owner of a full KID Supergrade build:



                        Yeah it wasnt cheap...but its worth every cent.

                        KID Supergrade Receiver
                        KID 18" Stainless Barrel in Bead-Blasted Finish, with Fluting
                        KID Two-Stage Trigger Group
                        KID CNC Bolt with Scalloped Finish
                        Boyd's Evolution Stock in Sky Finish
                        Mueller Eraticator 8.5-25x Illuminated Mildot Scope
                        Burris Signature Zee Scope Rings
                        Rest of parts KID
                        Build, Assembly, Stock inletting etc by Tony Kidd

                        And yes, its an absolute joy to shoot.

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