New survival rifles / WTH?

[Subotai]

Have they improved since Henry took them over? I had an AR-7 made by Charter Arms about 30 years ago and it jammed constantly. I tried various ammo, bought new mags, etc., but nothing helped.

I ended up giving it away.

I heard that they improved it when they bought it from Charter Arms. So I took a chance, and haven't been disappointed. Bought mine years ago. I think they're fine.

[damon1272]

I had an old charter arms AR-7 and what a POS. Two barrels later and a few stock I sold it. Great concept but a POS. You could do about the smal with a ruger 10/22 as they break down real easy.

[1lostinspace]

I had problems with mine but maybe they are making things with a higher quality now.
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[Chontkleer]

Look for the older savage 24 over under combo guns (lighter than the new model which is still made). They come in 22LR (or 22Mag) on top and a shotgun below in 20 gauge (or .410) weight is about 7 LBs There is also a short camper model that is 6 lbs. I have several >the rifles are usually quite accurate. Good luck

Do you know what the newer model is called? Searched their site but couldn't find anything similar. Used ones are going for $500-$700. Urk.

[Chontkleer]

I was thinking along the same lines of a .22lr pistol- the S&W22a is on sale for a pretty good deal right now but from what some on here are saying it is very uncomfortable-affecting accuracy.

The consensus on the interwebs seems to be the hunter versions of the Ruger 22 are the best value.

[Chontkleer]

I have an AR-7. Don't think I've ever had a jam. The stock is a bit wide though. But it shoots straight. Nice gun.

Oh, don't screw the barrel in like that guy, when you go to tighten it down, pull the bolt back while tightening so you can make sure it's tightened properly.

Did you put a little scope on it or are the sights on it good enough for squirrel/rabbit range anyway?

[bsg]

What do you think about this?

8 round magazines, collapses into its own waterproof stock.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

i've got a Henry catalog and i've looked at this rifle a few times.

i haven't done any research on the Henry version... but i'm tempted to do just that.

[Ripon83]

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=200&category=14&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=

New Rossi Wiward......allows you to pick a 22, ant shotgun gauge, any available rifle caliber of which 223, 308, 243 were certainly options....you have to switch barrels

[Subotai]

Did you put a little scope on it or are the sights on it good enough for squirrel/rabbit range anyway?

It has an aperture rear sight. Works fine for say 50 yards.

[Chontkleer]

i've got a Henry catalog and i've looked at this rifle a few times.

i haven't done any research on the Henry version... but i'm tempted to do just that.

$200-$220 -- hard to go wrong. And to confirm what frankm said, I've read in a bunch of places that they got the chamber (or whatever it was) right and it feeds pretty much everything well. (I think the big problem for it before was hollow point ammo).

[bsg]

$200-$220 -- hard to go wrong. And to confirm what frankm said, I've read in a bunch of places that they got the chamber (or whatever it was) right and it feeds pretty much everything well. (I think the big problem for it before was hollow point ammo).

not bad for a rifle that stores itself in it's own stock and floats on water. it could be a potential candidate for a SHTF small caliber rifle; when limited space is an issue.

[Chontkleer]

not bad for a rifle that stores itself in it's own stock and floats on water. it could be a potential candidate for a SHTF small caliber rifle; when limited space is an issue.

Especially when these are going for $800-$2,000

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239611579

I'm tempted to ask Springfield if I can mfg these things under license. (What do you need -- just a few 100k to become an arms mfg.?)