22 Cal large capacity magazines

[Cokebottle]

First question: Did High Capacity magazines exist for this firearm prior to the Ban?
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Second: When was the first date that a person could purchase a GSG-522 in California?
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Forgot one question. When was the 110 round magazine first available?

Certainly after the ban.

Third: Are there now Hi-Capacity magazines available in kit form, repair form or complete off the shelf that are legal in California that a person can assemble or purcase for use in that weapon in California (not just posses them)?

Drop "possess" from your vocabulary. Possession is not illegal under any circumstances.
That out of the way: Yes, rebuild kits are available for practically any gun made. It would be 100% legal for the OP to purchase a GSG rebuild kit and keep it in parts while in California.
He can then travel to visit friends in AZ or NV, assemble the kit, use it, then disassemble it prior to bringing it back into California.

My previous posts were addressing the OP's question about his particular firearm so what misinformation did I provide about his GSG-522 and Hi Capacity magazines? Thanks.

As posted above, PC12020(b) has a list of 32 exemptions to PC12020(a). Some exemptions apply to magazines, some do not.
The most obvious is the armored car company owner exemption.
Yes, it is 100% legal for the owner of an armored car company to import and sell anyone a high cap.
If one were to "go into business" doing so, I'm sure the legislature would act quickly to close the loophole.

Most interesting is PC12020(b)(21)
This appears to be an exemption for ANY California FFL (gun shop). It does not allow for importation, but it does allow for "sale by or to"
Good luck finding an FFL willing to stick his neck out.

[Kryptyde]

So it's not likely that the OP will ever legally acquire a large capacity magazine for his GSG, but it is not impossible.

Exactly. We are just coming at this from different points of view. Theres the technical legal side of the argument (very nicely described, thanks) and the practical side.

While I appreciate the research and understand the reasons for correcting my and other's statements, I think you do have to take the context of the casual question being posed into account. While its great that possession itself is has not (yet at least) been made illegal and thus there may be legal means (however unlikely) to obtain the item, its really not reasonable to expect to do so. In turn I will avoid using the word 'illegal' at all cost in further postings as even dead horses should never have to be beaten so brutally

[Cokebottle]

The horse is not dead... and far from possession is "not yet" illegal.

The opposite is the case, the tide is turning, even in California.

Gene Hoffman has gone through the initial steps, and is well on his way to getting PC12020(a)(2) thrown out.

[Merc1138]

The horse is not dead... and far from possession is "not yet" illegal.

The opposite is the case, the tide is turning, even in California.

Gene Hoffman has gone through the initial steps, and is well on his way to getting PC12020(a)(2) thrown out.

Yeah, I linked to the thread where Gene discussed it for a bit(although I'm not about to sift through it and find his posts) but there is indeed work being done by people to get it changed.

The reason why issues like this need to be spelled out and explained to people instead of "Well, it's basically illegal" is to stop the FUD. Look at knife laws and how many people seriously believe that cops can confiscate knives where the blade is longer than the palm of their hand or some other silly idiotic garbage. Additionally there's the matter of idiot workers at gun shops, idiots at the range etc. wanting to tell people they're doing things that are illegal because "some guy told me it's illegal so it must be" when the reality behind whatever it is you're doing is none of their business.

[tempdrummer]

For the record the 110 round mag didn't exist until last year so "pre ban" mags don't exist.

For the OP, the 10 round mag law applies to both centerfire AND rimfire with the exception of all the confusing reasons listed above.

[classical_buff]

What if he destroyed one of pre-ban 10/22 magazine and
use this 110 rounders as a rebuild kit? This way, he didn't make a "new" magazine and merely repaired one. Granted, the capacity of the magazine went from 25-round to 110-round. He started out with one pre-ban magazine and ended up with only one.

[Merc1138]

What if he destroyed one of pre-ban 10/22 magazine and
use this 110 rounders as a rebuild kit? This way, he didn't make a "new" magazine and merely repaired one. Granted, the capacity of the magazine went from 25-round to 110-round. He started out with one pre-ban magazine and ended up with only one.

The magazine still needs to be able to operate in the original firearm to be a "rebuild". You can't take apart a 30 round AK mag and assemble a 30 round AR pmag. Unless that 110 round GSG mag can fit in a 10/22, that'd be a no.

Now if he took his legally acquired(wtf do people keep insisting that it needs to be pre-ban... I thought we explained this already) large capacity 10/22 magazine, and then rebuilt it as a 110 rounder, it'd probably be fine(although I wouldn't personally start rebuilding GI m16 mags as beta mags).

[Cokebottle]

Now if he took his legally acquired(wtf do people keep insisting that it needs to be pre-ban... I thought we explained this already) large capacity 10/22 magazine, and then rebuilt it as a 110 rounder, it'd probably be fine(although I wouldn't personally start rebuilding GI m16 mags as beta mags).

Agreed. Comments from Bill and Gene indicate that, while it is not illegal to repair an 11rd magazine as a 75rd unit, there needs to be a direct path to the repair. Some who are more conservative believe that the mag must remain functional during the rebuild as each single part is replaced (IOTW, the original spring must function in the new body ), others believe that at least one part needs to be common (typically the follower or floorplate).
Regardless, the Beta would certainly be a no-go, as there are no compatible parts.

[classical_buff]

Unless that 110 round GSG mag can fit in a 10/22, that'd be a no.

Funny you should mention this, there is supposed to an adapter that will allow the 110-round drum to be compatible with Ruger 10/22.

[Cokebottle]

Funny you should mention this, there is supposed to an adapter that will allow the 110-round drum to be compatible with Ruger 10/22.

I wouldn't gamble that's good enough.

An adapter to allow a 10/22 drum to work in the GSG? Maybe, though you have the potential problem of mounting the adapter being considered "assembly"

[classical_buff]

I wouldn't gamble that's good enough.

An adapter to allow a 10/22 drum to work in the GSG? Maybe, though you have the potential problem of mounting the adapter being considered "assembly"

You are such a party pooper!