I realize this idea has been discussed but

[jackandblood]

I'd like to re-examine the idea in the context of the new Kel Tec Shotgun's method for switching between magazines. Since 22lr is regarded as purely a sporting round (nudge, wink), I think the idea of two tubular magazines in say a Marlin-esque 14 rd length and with a toggle switch (perhaps one that also functions as the cocking mechanism) would pass mustard - CA DOJ mustard. 14 shots then a brief toggle pause followed by 14 more shot. Really exciting sport shooting practice and events of say 24 steel targets perhaps with multiple shooting stations and postures, count hits and timed.

Or attempts at the very limits of 22lr range challenges with no spotter aid. 10 rds would just be irritating.

Or simply the convenance of shooting multiple targets at difficult ranges and being able to adjust sights or attempt kentucky style off sight adjustments and not having to reload, a disruption that can throw off any progress made, like starting from scratch.

The 14 + 14 attempts at 24 steel timed would make for a really exciting Olympic event for TV with technique spanning the different stances, strategies for the order in which to engage targets, and bio mechanics in all the transitioning and super fast tube switching.

The less threatening look of double tubular vs 30 round detachable magazines would make the event have a larger audience and in general I think would be palatable to CA's lobbyists.

Now. To find someone to make it.

[jinggoyd1967]

With all due respect this just seems like we are pandering to the anti-rights politicos. We should be thinking of gaining back lost rights instead of catering to their "feelings".

On the practical side, a tubular magazine rifle would not be best design for accuracy events. The magazine is usually supported by a barrel band that affects the resonance of the barrel. "Sling-up" will also put downward pressure on the barrel affecting point-of-impact.

[Turo]

would pass mustard - CA DOJ mustard.

I don't mean to be a grammar Nazi but, well here I go.

The phrase is to pass muster. Muster being when a group of soldiers were gathered and inspected to make sure they were acceptably dressed and equipped.

To pass mustard is to give someone else that tangy yellow bottle of goodness.

As for your topic, jinggoyd is right on the money.

[G lock]

To pass mustard is to give someone else that tangy yellow bottle of goodness.

lol

[natchamp]

personally, I like the idea. I would like to go the 80% route and design the multiple tube-style magazines to be integrated within the ar15 lower. Start with a ar15 lower as a starting point but do away with the magwell and then integrate the mutiple tube mags. I think there are ways to support the tubes without using the barrel. If you had multiple tubes rotating like an ole gattlin gun you would have tons of ammo storage.

[Quiet]

The less threatening look of double tubular vs 30 round detachable magazines would make the event have a larger audience and in general I think would be palatable to CA's lobbyists.

Since .22 calibered tubular magazines are exempt from the large capacity magazine laws, why not just have a single 28-30 round tubular magazine?

[Reductio]

Since .22 calibered tubular magazines are exempt from the large capacity magazine laws, why not just have a single 28-30 round tubular magazine?

Size matters.

[GrizzlyGuy]

That's an interesting idea, but keep in mind that CGF is making good progress on it's project that will allow us to buy large-capacity magazines once again. Here is the latest status update.

[Kilenger]

Winchester played around with this idea a few decades ago. I found a model 63 prototype that used multiple tube magazines at a local gun show a few years back (Del Mar or Costa Mesa). The 63 is a semi auto .22 that loads from a tubular magazine in the butt stock. This prototype had a drum of about 6 tubes in the butt stock, set up like little gattling barrels. Rotate drum by hand, throw a switch, presto 12 more rounds. Very interesting collector's item, but I'm not sure how practical it is to add all the extra weight to a very light rifle.

[Kilenger]

While we're on the subject of magazine law work arounds, why not look at the lever action exemption for magazine capacity as well. The Evan's repeating rifle held 34 rounds and was patented in 1871. Pretty much the world's first assault rifle. There's an idea that should be resurrected for the modern age.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/blancard/evans.htm

[jackandblood]

I don't mean to be a grammar Nazi but, well here I go.

The phrase is to pass muster. Muster being when a group of soldiers were gathered and inspected to make sure they were acceptably dressed and equipped.

To pass mustard is to give someone else that tangy yellow bottle of goodness.

As for your topic, jinggoyd is right on the money.

ah. thanks. I botch expressions all the time cuz may have heard it said be not in text. Ya I know what you mean. Like when a platoon leader says "1st platoon is mustard. why the hell are 2nd and 3rd playing grab *** over there?"

[jackandblood]

Size matters.

im thinking it would be unwieldy. the tube mag extending past the barrel.

[Reductio]

im thinking it would be unwieldy. the tube mag extending past the barrel.

Exactly, a 22lr round is about an inch long, so it adds up fast.

[jackandblood]

Well I cant really imagine this state ever going back to more sensible controls. I think with CA it's pretty much all about damage control, making sure things dont get worse. So we have to get creative. Anyhow the notion of 14 + 14 tubes for surely would have a more "sporting" feel and be appealing to a greater audience than deattachable box magazine. Course for competition, advances in design would be needed. Would make for more interesting SHOT shows for sure.

With all due respect this just seems like we are pandering to the anti-rights politicos. We should be thinking of gaining back lost rights instead of catering to their "feelings".

On the practical side, a tubular magazine rifle would not be best design for accuracy events. The magazine is usually supported by a barrel band that affects the resonance of the barrel. "Sling-up" will also put downward pressure on the barrel affecting point-of-impact.

[jinggoyd1967]

Well, a double magazine similar to the KelTec KSG for my Marlin 336 lever-gun would be cool. 12 rounds of .30-30 would be awesome.