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  • Caribouriver
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2010
    • 645

    Please clarify .22 capacity question-

    Are .22 caliber rim fire rifles and pistols exempt from California's 10 rd max capacity rule? I think I have seen posts here that talk about 20 rd and 30 rd magazines. They certainly exist but are they CA legal? Sorry if this has been asked before.
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    rromeo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 6981

    22s are not exempt from the 10 round limit. 22s with a tubular magazine are. Your Marlin 60, or Winchester 72, or whatever other rifle can have the 14 or 18 rounds.
    It is not illegal to have 30 round 22 magazines, but if you didn't own them prior to January of 2000, you may have broken a law.
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    • #3
      CSDGuy
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 3763

      I own a 17 shot .22LR rifle. It has a tubular magazine... not a violation of law. The tubular .22LR magazines are specifically exempted from the capacity portion of AW law.

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      • #4
        Caribouriver
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Apr 2010
        • 645

        Thank you gentlemen. I have an old Marlin 39A Golden Mountie with a tubular magazine and was wondering if I had to "plug" it

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        • #5
          E Pluribus Unum
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2006
          • 8098

          Originally posted by rromeo
          22s are not exempt from the 10 round limit. 22s with a tubular magazine are. Your Marlin 60, or Winchester 72, or whatever other rifle can have the 14 or 18 rounds.
          It is not illegal to have 30 round 22 magazines, but if you didn't own them prior to January of 2000, you may have broken a law.
          That's funny.

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          • #6
            Izzy43
            CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
            • Dec 2009
            • 2670

            How many times has this been asked and I have been a member on this site for less than a year? The search function must be BROKE. Sorry to rant about it and I rarely, rarely rant but jeez!

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            • #7
              Seesm
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2008
              • 7812

              Romeo just moved there and he is fairly well versed in California gunlaw and is a smart guy...

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              • #8
                BHP FAN
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 419

                good information is never a bad thing.

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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  Originally posted by CSDGuy
                  The tubular .22LR magazines are specifically exempted from the capacity portion of AW law.

                  Actually...
                  Rimfire calibers are not specifically exempt from the large capacity magazine laws and are only exempt from the assault weapons laws pertaining to rifles (semi-auto rimfire handguns need to comply with the assault weapons laws).

                  In regards to magazine capacity, what is exempt are:
                  1) Magazines that have been permanently modified to 10 rounds. [PC 12020(c)(25)(A)]
                  2) .22 caliber (rimfire & centerfire) tubular magazine fixed to the firearm. [PC 12020(c)(25)(B)]
                  3) (Any rimfire & centerfire caliber) tubular magazine fixed to lever-action firearms. [PC 12020(c)(25)(C)]




                  Penal Code 12020
                  (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
                  (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
                  (B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
                  (C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
                  Last edited by Quiet; 12-28-2010, 7:18 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Southpaw45
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2333

                    Originally posted by Seesm
                    Romeo just moved there and he is fairly well versed in California gunlaw and is a smart guy...
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                    • #11
                      goofcat
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 564

                      I was looking at some of my old gun stuff and found two 30 round Ramline mags for my AR7. I've had them since 1980. Are they illegal? If so what should I do with them?

                      Sorry for such a newbie question.
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                      • #12
                        dfletcher
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14794

                        Originally posted by CSDGuy
                        I own a 17 shot .22LR rifle. It has a tubular magazine... not a violation of law. The tubular .22LR magazines are specifically exempted from the capacity portion of AW law.
                        I'm assuming 17 M2 and 17 HMR tube magazines are also exempt, correct?
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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by dfletcher
                          I'm assuming 17 M2 and 17 HMR tube magazines are also exempt, correct?
                          If they are attached to a lever-action firearm, then they are exempt from the large capacity magazine laws.

                          If they are not attached to a lever-action firearm, then they must comply with the large capacity magazine laws.
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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30242

                            Originally posted by goofcat
                            I was looking at some of my old gun stuff and found two 30 round Ramline mags for my AR7. I've had them since 1980. Are they illegal? If so what should I do with them?

                            Sorry for such a newbie question.
                            You owned them before 01-01-2000, so they are legal.
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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                            • #15
                              lewisracing
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 697

                              I found my Umarex 20 rounders in a gutter outside of my house. They were just laying there. Amazing huh?

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