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  • #16
    Mike's Custom
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 872

    CZ all the way. I have the Ruger M77/17 VT in both .17HMR and .17M2. since I bought the .17 M2 I don't take my HMR out anymore. Ammo is half the price and the squirrels still explode. I use the M2 out to 200+ yards but it is extremely deadly 150+ no problem. I also have a converted 10/22 in M2 that is a tack driver but I tend to shoot faster and my kill rate goes down. The Savage or Marlins are vey accurate, as all the .17 rimfires I have shot but the CZ set triggers are great and the Marlin and Savages need work. so for my money I would go CZ. CZ now makes a COMBO in 22LR/17HMR with both barrels and a SILHOUETTE competition version with a 16" barrel and synthetic stock for IMSSA.
    "Gun control is not about guns, it is about control"

    Mike's Custom Firearms 661-834-7836
    http://mikescustomfirearms.com/

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    • #17
      fast318
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 761

      Originally posted by Mike's Custom
      CZ all the way. I have the Ruger M77/17 VT in both .17HMR and .17M2. since I bought the .17 M2 I don't take my HMR out anymore. Ammo is half the price and the squirrels still explode. I use the M2 out to 200+ yards but it is extremely deadly 150+ no problem. I also have a converted 10/22 in M2 that is a tack driver but I tend to shoot faster and my kill rate goes down. The Savage or Marlins are vey accurate, as all the .17 rimfires I have shot but the CZ set triggers are great and the Marlin and Savages need work. so for my money I would go CZ. CZ now makes a COMBO in 22LR/17HMR with both barrels and a SILHOUETTE competition version with a 16" barrel and synthetic stock for IMSSA.
      I forgot to mention that I have a timney trigger in mine.

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      • #18
        4NDone0331
        Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 138

        I don't own a .17 but I would suggest using a .223 or .22-250 just because you can reload the ammo, and .17 ammo is kind of expensive IMO for a rimfire. The price of .17 should be comparable to reloading .223, or if you dont want to reload you could just buy the Russian steel cased ammo which is a cheap alternative as well. Plus the .223 ammo has better range and more stability.
        For those who have fought for freedom...Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.
        USMC Infantry 06-10 OIFx2 Combat Vet

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        • #19
          crowbar1
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Aug 2009
          • 135

          WOW!!! Thanks for all of the input guys!!!!

          You all seem to talk about wind. How much wind does it take to make the bullet drift???

          are we talking 5-10 mph or 15-25 mph?
          Originally posted by wrightb
          The gun will make a weird sound, like a loose fart escaping. There usually won't be the bang you are accustomed too.

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          • #20
            acousticmood
            Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 228

            I can't believe no one suggested the Henry lever action! Awesome rifle for what you are describing. And you can go for the golden boy for a great looking rifle.

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            • #21
              scootergmc
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 4089

              Get the Savage w/ the accutrigger. No better gun for the price point. I have a Marlin 917v, and it's sweet, but the Savage wasn't available back then w/ the accutrigger. Had it been, I would've just bought it out of the box and not spent extra $ on the stock and trigger. On the other hand, and at 200 yards, I'd just get a centerfire, say a .204 Ruger or .22-250 and be done with it. But just for giggles, I give my gratuitous Marlin pic:

              Last edited by scootergmc; 10-03-2010, 7:51 PM.

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              • #22
                Mike's Custom
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 872

                Originally posted by crowbar1
                WOW!!! Thanks for all of the input guys!!!!

                You all seem to talk about wind. How much wind does it take to make the bullet drift???

                are we talking 5-10 mph or 15-25 mph?
                For me, I have found that wind doesn't effect it as much as a .22 or even .223. The .17 is fast and small, like a needle so it does fairly well.I found that a head wind or tail wind can cause more effect the a quartering wind. Like most the longer the distance the more the wind will effect it as the bullet slows. I shoot 200-300+ rounds of .17M2 a month and 50-100 .17HMR a month. Since I started shooting my .17M2s I don't even take a .22lr out anymore.
                "Gun control is not about guns, it is about control"

                Mike's Custom Firearms 661-834-7836
                http://mikescustomfirearms.com/

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                • #23
                  Gary13
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1523

                  Originally posted by scootergmc
                  Get the Savage w/ the accutrigger. No better gun for the price point. I have a Marlin 917v, and it's sweet, but the Savage wasn't available back then w/ the accutrigger. Had it been, I would've just bought it out of the box and not spent extra $ on the stock and trigger. On the other hand, and at 200 yards, I'd just get a centerfire, say a .204 Ruger or .22-250 and be done with it. But just for giggles, I give my gratuitous Marlin pic:

                  I have the same Savage and really like it, cheap to shoot and a fun round. On the other hand, I shot a 22-250 and that is a fun round. You sound like you already have a .223, and that is a good option as well.

                  I can't believe no one has asked you when the party is at your house....get a few calgunners over there and we will take care of the problem.

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                  • #24
                    Unit74
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2359

                    I put down 30 ground squirrels last weekend with my bone stock 93r17.

                    Longest shot was 150 yards leaning against a tree. Most shots were about 100 yards.

                    Many shots were center mass and resulted in blown out midsections. Pretty effin devastating wounds. I was using hornady 17 gr. and a barska hot magnum scope.

                    The savage is gtg out the box in my book.

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                    • #25
                      Bill Steele
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 5028

                      I have been thinking about one of these: http://cz-usa.com/products/view/455-american/

                      Not sure if they will shoot up to the 452 with the new barrel setup, but I like the notion I can switch cartridges if I want.
                      When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                      • #26
                        Mike's Custom
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 872

                        Originally posted by Bill Steele
                        I have been thinking about one of these: http://cz-usa.com/products/view/455-american/

                        Not sure if they will shoot up to the 452 with the new barrel setup, but I like the notion I can switch cartridges if I want.
                        I have been waiting to get one to test. I have a customer that wants one. I am thinking that since I have never had a CZ that wasn't outstanding that they wouldn't make one that couldn't stand up. You would ahve to resight the scope but that isn't that bad for a switch barrel.
                        "Gun control is not about guns, it is about control"

                        Mike's Custom Firearms 661-834-7836
                        http://mikescustomfirearms.com/

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                        • #27
                          sevensix2x51
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3835

                          +1 for the savage. I have the stainless model, and I have been able to squeeze half inch groups (ps- at 100yd)out of it with a barska and cci tnt's. No mods have been done to the rifle.
                          Last edited by sevensix2x51; 10-05-2010, 11:43 AM.

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                          • #28
                            4NDone0331
                            Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 138

                            if your set on getting a 17 here's my personal favorite, the savage 93R17 TRR. I dont own it but if I do ever get one this is would be it.
                            For those who have fought for freedom...Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.
                            USMC Infantry 06-10 OIFx2 Combat Vet

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                            • #29
                              CoyoteHunter555
                              Senior Member
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1536



                              mmmmmmmmmmm

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                              • #30
                                leelaw
                                Junior Member
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 10445

                                I picked up a Savage 93R17 BTVS a couple months back and love it. The accutrigger is nice, and you should be able to get out to 200yds with .17HRM, though the round is susceptible to drift from the wind. Take with a grain of salt, as my experience with long distance accuracy rifle shooting is limited.

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