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  • Bray556
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 99

    Ceiner 1911A1

    Hey guys, I already posted this in the California Handguns forum, not realizing there is a dedicated forum to .22 firearms... Oooops. I'm looking for some info about the Ciener conversion kits.

    I want the simpliest of .22 1911 conversion kits, ie. fixed sights, matte-finish...

    Does anyone have any experience with Ciener kits? I really like the look of their base model and the price seems right...

    My concern is, I don't want to have to use exclusively "hot" .22 ammo...

    Any input is greatly appreciated.

    PS: I know, I could buy a 22/45 Ruger, Browning Buck Mark etc... I don't want one. Also, I know Ciener is a dick and has a bad reputation for customer service and fixing their own issues... I would buy it from MidwayUSA and I know they stand behind what they sell, so I'm confident that I will be taken care of.

    Thanks in advance.
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    nrakid88
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 3285

    I think ciener is known for having a horrible customer service, possibly with a lawsuit in progress??? I dont know for sure been a while since I have shopped for a 1911 conversion, but I ended up going with a kimber conversion.
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    • #3
      Vee3
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 203

      I had one like you're wanting. It was perfectly machined and worked flawlessly mounted on my Argentine 1911A1 copy. I only used CCI Mini Mags in it. I sold it because it seemed kinda redundant considering my other more accurate 22 handguns (Ruger MKII, S&W 41 & 17).

      My buddy's Kimber came with the Ciener conversion they used before making their own. I've shot it a couple of times and it's pretty accurate. He likes it a lot and doesn't feel a need for a dedicated 22 pistol.
      "If you come to a fork in the road, take it." - Yogi Berra

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      • #4
        r3plica
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 54

        I'm in the same boat, I just ordered a RIA 1911 and am wanting to get a .22lr kit for it. The Ciener kit is nice and no frills, but all the negative feedback about his service kind of scares me off of it.

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        • #5
          lmudave
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 843

          I've got a Marvel type 2 and its highly accurate and a blast to shoot. I think most 22lr conversions for the 1911 need the higher velocity ammo to cycle the slide, I know mine does.

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          • #6
            j1133s
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 1343

            Originally posted by Bray556
            Hey guys, I already posted this in the California Handguns forum, not realizing there is a dedicated forum to .22 firearms... Oooops. I'm looking for some info about the Ciener conversion kits.

            I want the simpliest of .22 1911 conversion kits, ie. fixed sights, matte-finish...

            Does anyone have any experience with Ciener kits? I really like the look of their base model and the price seems right...

            My concern is, I don't want to have to use exclusively "hot" .22 ammo...

            Any input is greatly appreciated.

            PS: I know, I could buy a 22/45 Ruger, Browning Buck Mark etc... I don't want one. Also, I know Ciener is a dick and has a bad reputation for customer service and fixing their own issues... I would buy it from MidwayUSA and I know they stand behind what they sell, so I'm confident that I will be taken care of.

            Thanks in advance.
            Hi there,
            I own a ciener 1911 conversion kit and have used it a few times. Here's what I think (it's been at least 5 years since I fired it):

            It works w/ Standard velocity ammo (because that's pretty much all I have) and isn't ammo sensitive. I bought it from some ad (maybe in NRA's rifleman mag?) directly from Ciener and experienced no problems. I bought an extra mag, and it fits inside the kit's plastic box (which is great because otherwise I'd prob would have lost it already). It isn't very accurate. If I remember correctly, it shoots 5 or 10" groups at 25 yards; it's lack of accuracy is the reason I don't use it.

            It was an impulse buy for me because I saw the ad and made the call very quick. If I were in your shoes where I'm actually doing a little thinking, I'd figure out firstly what I want to do w/ a .22LR pistol/kit... then decide what to get. However, I already own a few .22LR pistols, so I'm not in your position.

            If this conversion happens to be my only .22LR pistol, then I'd be very sad and would have sold it after the 2nd range trip. However, being that it isn't, I don't hate it, it works well enough to let me shoot .22LRs out of my 1911, but there's just no real need for me since I can't hit things too well w/ it.

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            • #7
              Bray556
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 99

              Originally posted by j1133s
              Hi there,
              I own a ciener 1911 conversion kit and have used it a few times. Here's what I think (it's been at least 5 years since I fired it):

              It works w/ Standard velocity ammo (because that's pretty much all I have) and isn't ammo sensitive. I bought it from some ad (maybe in NRA's rifleman mag?) directly from Ciener and experienced no problems. I bought an extra mag, and it fits inside the kit's plastic box (which is great because otherwise I'd prob would have lost it already). It isn't very accurate. If I remember correctly, it shoots 5 or 10" groups at 25 yards; it's lack of accuracy is the reason I don't use it.

              It was an impulse buy for me because I saw the ad and made the call very quick. If I were in your shoes where I'm actually doing a little thinking, I'd figure out firstly what I want to do w/ a .22LR pistol/kit... then decide what to get. However, I already own a few .22LR pistols, so I'm not in your position.

              If this conversion happens to be my only .22LR pistol, then I'd be very sad and would have sold it after the 2nd range trip. However, being that it isn't, I don't hate it, it works well enough to let me shoot .22LRs out of my 1911, but there's just no real need for me since I can't hit things too well w/ it.
              Yeah, it will be my first semi auto .22LR... I've got a Ruger Single-Six, but I want to practice with my main defense pistol. I figure the conversion in the best solution. I have held and shot the Buck Marks and the Ruger Mark series pistols, and honestly, I wasn't that impressed.

              I have used my buddies CZ75 with the .22LR Kadet conversion, and THAT is a sweet setup. I just don't have that kind of cash at the moment.

              Accuracy isn't a huge issue, I usually put my targets at about 10-15 yards... I'm not looking for a tack driving pistol... I just want reasonable reliability (clearing the occasional misfire/ stovepipe is good practice). Decisions, decisions.

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              • #8
                j1133s
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 1343

                Originally posted by Bray556

                Accuracy isn't a huge issue, I usually put my targets at about 10-15 yards... I'm not looking for a tack driving pistol... I just want reasonable reliability (clearing the occasional misfire/ stovepipe is good practice). Decisions, decisions.
                Would it help your decision if I sell you mine for $200 + ship or local pick up in San Jose?
                It is used 3-5 times max and <= 50 rounds each time. It comes w/ 2 15-round mag kits, which you can mod into 10 rounders, and its original box.

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                • #9
                  usmcchet9296
                  CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1834

                  Shot this with my Kimber Rimfire (upper is the same as a conversion kit) at 7 yards standing offhand the first day I got it. Since then I have tried at 25 yards and kept them under 3.5 inches. Sure its not a Marvel unit but it is a hoot to shoot and has been very reliable with any HV ammo I put into it.

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