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[supersteve9219]

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[MAD SVT]

the 10/22's dont have "problems",, they are just made cheaper than they used to with the BBQ paint on the receivers and the poly triggers
I personally like the poly trigger better than the metal one, but i prefer the old blued receivers also.. so im a lost cause.
I would say the G22's have more problems than the 10/22's BY FAR.
Even though you dont feel like modding it now, eventually you might, so id suggest buying a platform that you have lots of options for.
I also have a Marlin 7-- and i prefer my 10/22. but the marlin was my first gun so its SpEcIaL.

[supersteve9219]

Yea I think the 10/22 would be the best option, I want something that I know will be reliable and I won't have a problem finding parts for and the 10/22 seems to fit the bill.

[CalNRA]

All I really want is .22 that is fairly accurate out of the box that I can plink with for a few hours at the range, I don't plan on doing much customizing besides adding a scope and maybe a different stock if I were to buy the 10/22 or marlin 60/marlin 795

Marlins.

Rugers out of the box are hit and miss in accuracy, and since you don't plan on customizing beyond a stock the Marlins are good to go.

[trickyvic]

Marlin 60. If your located anywhere near Sac, sportmans warehouse in Rocklin have Marlin 60SN's which come with a scope and is bore sighted for $210 OTD.

[supersteve9219]

Marlins.

Rugers out of the box are hit and miss in accuracy, and since you don't plan on customizing beyond a stock the Marlins are good to go.

Humm, well I started looking around, and was thinking if I get the Ruger 10/22 I would put a green mountain barrel and hogue overmolded stock, in terms of accuracy would I be better of with the Ruger with the barrel and stock or a out of the box marlin?

Oh and I am in the Los Angeles area :-(

[caoboy]

OOTB Marlin is more accurate than a ootb ruger, and is cheaper.

You will be spending way more money overall on the 10/22.

[Quiet]

Another vote for the Marlin Model 60.
Don't have to factor in the cost of getting magazines.

[Joe22]

Ya I vote marlin 60 too after reading first post.. But then you said you want to get new stock and bull barrel for the 10/22.. If you got the cash then i'd vote that route...

[Turo]

I too will give my vote for the marlin 60 (ss if you can find it.) Mine is very fun to shoot, and is very accurate with nothing done to it since I got it.
I've shot a 10/22 more than the 60 and while it is a nice gun, I prefer the marlin's tube magazine (14rnds or 18 if you can find an older one.)
The only thing I'll caution is on my model 60, the scope (simmons .22mag) comes off the mount after an hour or so of shooting. I don't know if I don't tighten the screws enough or what, but it's done it to me twice now. So watch out for that.

[supersteve9219]

Well I want to spend around $400 max, seems like Marlin 60 is the favorite here, going to do some more research on it and might head down and buy it or whatever I decide on Friday.

[sb_pete]

All I really want is .22 that is fairly accurate out of the box that I can plink with for a few hours at the range, I don't plan on doing much customizing besides adding a scope and maybe a different stock if I were to buy the 10/22 or marlin 60/marlin 795

The G22 feels cheap to me and I hear about lots of issues (never shot one though so take that for what it is).

I am not a fan of Marlin 60's. They are reliable and accurate, but no more so than 10/22's.
- They have suffered the same fate as the 10/22 in terms of cheaper materials and assembly.
- They also have crappy triggers. Difference is there is not a wealth of aftermarket triggers readily available and easy to swap in yourself.
- I hate the weight balance. The synthetic stocks used in the ones I have seen for sale (I know the catalog lists a laminate stock, but I've never seen one for sale) are REALLY lightweight. This is not nice to me though as the gun becomes massively front heavy (exacerbated by the tube mag adding more weight out front.
- Tube mag. Meh, not an issue, but you can't load up 5 mags and get all (mini)Rambo on the tin cans. I also don't much care for front loading tube mags in general. I have a Taurus 63 (repro Win 63) which has a rear (through the stock) tube mag that loads via a teardrop cut in the stock. That is great as it puts the weight of the whole thing back in the stock which makes the gun feel lighter when shouldered and makes it point quicker. Admitedly there are times when you want a barrel heavy gun like offhand High Power, but that's another conversation. For a plinker, butt heavy is very much preferable to me.


The 10/22 is a classic. They shoot well, there is as much aftermarket support as there is for AR15's if not more. You can turn them into anything from Appleseed rifles, to plinkers, to handguns, to overscoped minibenchrest guns. They are also super easy to disassemble and thus great for learning about how a gun works. They are also easy to keep clean because of this. That said, I would splurge on the the 10/22T target model (~$350-$450 depending on where and which). It has a nice laminate stock, a great hammer forged stainless bbl, and a very nice trigger out of the box). If you are going to go scoped .22, I think this is the ticket. I love mine.

Have you thought about the Remington 597 at all? Those are also available in target versions with laminate stocks, stainless bull barrels and nice triggers. They also have an easier to manipulate magazine and a bolt hold-open feature (which is nice, but Ruger designed the 10/22 and Mk series so that dryfiring in no way damages the chamber so the hold open isn't really necessary in 10/22's).

If I were you I'd be deciding between the 10/22T and the 597TVP if I were planing on scoping it. No scope, I'd go with a 10/22 with the techsights peepsight or a Taurus 63 if you can find one.

If you want cheap and scoped, I'd go with one of these 597 kits for under $200. Skip the Mossy Plinkster or G22, they're cheapo. The Marlin 60 is a nice little gun that's been around forever. If you shoot one and love it great, I did not. And if you really want a bullpup, there's lots of kits for 10/22's like this one. Heck, you can make a 10/22 into a fake SAW if you want

hope that helps,
-Pete

[supersteve9219]

Thanks for the info, I think I will just go with the 10/22, I don't really plan on doing much to it but who knows, it would be nice to have the option to change out stuff and customize it.

Before I go whats the word on the SIG 522, just saw it and it looks pretty nice, but not much info on it on the forums.

[dg29]

Do yourself a favor and put a CZ 452 American on your list. If you can deal with a bolt and magazine 22lr. ,one would cover your accuracy out of the box requirement. The only thing that you might add to one would be a scope. If you plan on customizing the 10/22 would be the way to go.
Good luck on the decision!

[supersteve9219]

I am looking for a autoloading .22, I don't have anything against bolts but my grandfather has a few of them I could borrow.

I'm pretty sure im going to go with the 10/22 just wanted to know if I should consider the Sig 522