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  • mala in se
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 619

    10/22 Crank Fire Legality

    i am pretty sure that because the crank turns your 10/22 into an automatic plinker, but if i am wrong ( i really hope i am), i am going to order one. 4 shots to a rotation...

    10/22 BMF ACTIVATOR 22 RIFLE CRANK FIRE FOR FAST SHOOTING
  • #2
    JeffM
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 4359

    illegal

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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      Perfectly legal in 49 states. I'm sure you can figure out which one it is a FELONY in.
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      • #4
        CHS
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 11338

        Insta-felony!
        Please read the Calguns Wiki
        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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        • #5
          lorax3
          Super Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2009
          • 4633

          Below is just the PC. You may be in Federal water as well.

          12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
          is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
          or in the state prison: 1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
          state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
          lends, or possesses any multiburst
          trigger activator
          .

          (23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator"
          means one of the following devices:
          (A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a
          semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or
          more shots in a burst by activating the device.
          (B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed
          and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it
          increases the rate of fire of that firearm.
          You think you know, but you have no idea.

          The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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          • #6
            CHS
            Moderator Emeritus
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            • Jan 2008
            • 11338

            Originally posted by lorax3
            Below is just the PC. You may be in Federal water as well.
            Nah, the fed's are ok with those. Because it's a crank, they don't consider that manufacturing of a machinegun. Same with the bump-fire adapters.
            Please read the Calguns Wiki
            Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
            --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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            • #7
              SCB5794
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 180

              Illegal,
              but it doesnt matter, they dont work anyways, they slip off when your cranking it!
              ..▲
              ▲ ▲

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              • #8
                Lurch762
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 962

                You could always modify it outside of California so it only fires 1 time per crank revolution then bring it here. PC12020 specifically says:
                (A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a
                semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or
                more shots
                in a burst by activating the device.

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                • #9
                  cannon
                  In Memoriam
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 8589

                  Are those things they used to sell where you put two Ruger 10/22's in a frame and turn the crank illegal?
                  ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                  • #10
                    wilit
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 5210

                    12020.
                    (B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed
                    and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it
                    increases the rate of fire of that firearm.
                    I wonder how challengable this is because the term "increases the rate of fire of that firearm" is subjective. A manually activated crankfire 10/22 or 1919A4 will never approach the rate of fire if Jerry Miculik is behind the trigger with just his finger.

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                    • #11
                      mala in se
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 619

                      darn

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                      • #12
                        Lurch762
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 962

                        Originally posted by cannon
                        Are those things they used to sell where you put two Ruger 10/22's in a frame and turn the crank illegal?
                        Based on the fact that they can fire 2 rounds with a single turn of the crank, I would say yes.

                        All that BS about increasing the rate of fire...gimme a break. My brother and I used to load up his Remington 552 Speedmaster with 15 rounds and see how fast we could empty it. Shooting from the hip, stiff finger slapping against the trigger, is seemed like we could empty it in less than 3 seconds.

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                        • #13
                          50BMGBOB
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1738

                          Funny thing is while it is illegal to put a crank on a Semi-auto firearm you can legally own a real Gatling gun.
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                          • #14
                            CSACANNONEER
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Originally posted by 50BMGBOB
                            Funny thing is while it is illegal to put a crank on a Semi-auto firearm you can legally own a real Gatling gun.
                            Shhhhhhhh..........Don't give "them" any ideas on what to ban next.
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                            • #15
                              caoboy
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 2400

                              If you are going to go illegal, just hook up a dremel to the crank.

                              That way you'd have some fun before you went to have some 'fun'.

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