S&W MP15-22

[BigPun762]

Decided to give the S&W MP15-22 another try!!

I had the older MP15-22 with the quad rail but sold it.

Loving the Mlok rails and look overall. And love how I can buy cheap accessories off Amazon and they will hold zero lol.

[FNGGlock]

I spend more on an upgraded trigger, red dot and furniture than what the rifle cost. It is fun shooter and have send a lof of bullets downrange with it.
Love the easy cleaning and disassembly compared to my 10/22, which haven’t seen daylight in a while.
Hope you enjoy yours.

[BigPun762]

Took it to the range today. I was reminded why I also sold it......lots of stuck casings lol. Still lots of fun though!

But I believe upgrading the extractor will remedy the issue.

[sirgrumps]

Took it to the range today. I was reminded why I also sold it......lots of stuck casings lol. Still lots of fun though!

But I believe upgrading the extractor will remedy the issue.

I was running the factory extractor for years.
Some of the 15-22 are ammo sensitive.

I run Federal Bulk (bricks of 525 or more) for years, no issue.
Also never have had a jam, FTE, or FTF, using Mini mags.

It does choke, a lot, on Federal Automatch, about once per mag.
Winchester bulk has the same issue.

the 100 packs of Winchester seem to run good.

I recommend that you avoid lead round nose and only stick to plated or jackets bullets.

Mine also hated Remington Golden bullets, especially the buckets.

[BigPun762]

I was running the factory extractor for years.
Some of the 15-22 are ammo sensitive.

I run Federal Bulk (bricks of 525 or more) for years, no issue.
Also never have had a jam, FTE, or FTF, using Mini mags.

It does choke, a lot, on Federal Automatch, about once per mag.
Winchester bulk has the same issue.

the 100 packs of Winchester seem to run good.

I recommend that you avoid lead round nose and only stick to plated or jackets bullets.

Mine also hated Remington Golden bullets, especially the buckets.

It choked on basically all ammo I brought, even CCI had some hang ups. I brought SK semi auto, Blazer, Federal Champion, CCI (various packs).

So far the most reliable 22 plinksters I own are the HK416-22 and the Ruger 10/22 (old model), they'll eat anything.

I'll swap out the extractor and see if it does anything. From what i've seen on Youtube, it does help a lot.

[stormvet]

I’ve got 4000 rounds fired with mine and I can count the number of stoppage on one hand, all cheap bulk box ammo. It absolutely loves Remington Golden bullets and Federal Automatch, I got 6 25 round mags and often empty them all in just a couple of minutes. I’ve been stunned by how great mine runs, bone stock. Got a cheap $60 red dot, a Bravo Co stubby foregrip, minimalist stock and cheap sling and it just runs fantastic.

[ar15barrels]

Took it to the range today. I was reminded why I also sold it......
lots of stuck casings lol. Still lots of fun though!

But I believe upgrading the extractor will remedy the issue.

The extractor in a blowback firearm does not extract fired casings.
The extractor is there to act as a pivot point for the ejector.
It's also there to extract live rounds.

When a round is fired in a blowback gun, the case slides out of the chamber from the pressure in the barrel that's pushing the bullet down the barrel.

If you have failures of the case to come out of the chamber, it's because of something in the chamber is not letting the case slide out or there is some other problem with too much spring tension of too much grunge that the bolt is not moving freely.
Clean and polish the chamber and bolt and lube the bolt and deburr the edge of the chamber and you should not have any more extraction troubles.

Ejection troubles are caused by too much extractor tension.
The extractor needs to let the case go when the case strikes the ejector.

[BigPun762]

The extractor in a blowback firearm does not extract fired casings.
The extractor is there to act as a pivot point for the ejector.
It's also there to extract live rounds.

When a round is fired in a blowback gun, the case slides out of the chamber from the pressure in the barrel that's pushing the bullet down the barrel.

If you have failures of the case to come out of the chamber, it's because of something in the chamber is not letting the case slide out or there is some other problem with too much spring tension of too much grunge that the bolt is not moving freely.
Clean and polish the chamber and bolt and lube the bolt and deburr the edge of the chamber and you should not have any more extraction troubles.

Ejection troubles are caused by too much extractor tension.
The extractor needs to let the case go when the case strikes the ejector.

I am having the 100% exact same issues as the video below. Once he replaced the extractor, the issue was resolved. The comments echo the same problem and how the extractor fixed their issue.



The part is $16, there is really no harm in replacing it.

[ar15barrels]

The good cleaning that he gave the rifle probably fixed the problem.
He also switched to a different kind of ammo than he was having problems with.
Cleaning a rifle AND changing a part AND changing ammo types means you can not tell what actually fixed the problem.
If you want to test a part change, do NOT change anything else.
Change the part and test.

If you just want to make the gun work, clean and lube it first and then try different ammos.
Those two will fix most 22LR problems.
If the problem continues after cleaning and with all ammo types, THEN you can change a part and see what happens.
If ONLY changing the part fixes the problem, then you found the problem.

But there's no way you credit the part change as fixing a problem when you also cleaned/lubed the gun and shot different ammo.

Most of the time when I get these types of problems through my hands, the extractor spring and detent are so crudded up that the extractor does not move freely.
Simple cleaning and lube fixes the problem.
Sometimes, the extractor is mis-shapen or has a burr that restricts it's movement.
Sometimes the barrel is out of alignment which causes the extractor to bind in the barrel.
All of these issues will cause problems and all are fixable without parts replacement.
Most people thinking they are fixing these problems by switching a part are ALSO cleaning out the crud and lubing the new extractor at the same time they put it in and then they incorrectly claim the new extractor fixed the gun.
I would bet that in 90-95% of cases, you could put the OLD extractor back in AFTER the clean and lube and the gun will run the same as with the new extractor.

I am having the 100% exact same issues as the video below. Once he replaced the extractor, the issue was resolved. The comments echo the same problem and how the extractor fixed their issue.



The part is $16, there is really no harm in replacing it.

[BigPun762]

The good cleaning that he gave the rifle probably fixed the problem.
He also switched to a different kind of ammo than he was having problems with.
Cleaning a rifle AND changing a part AND changing ammo types means you can not tell what actually fixed the problem.
If you want to test a part change, do NOT change anything else.
Change the part and test.

If you just want to make the gun work, clean and lube it first and then try different ammos.
Those two will fix most 22LR problems.
If the problem continues after cleaning and with all ammo types, THEN you can change a part and see what happens.
If ONLY changing the part fixes the problem, then you found the problem.

But there's no way you credit the part change as fixing a problem when you also cleaned/lubed the gun and shot different ammo.

Most of the time when I get these types of problems through my hands, the extractor spring and detent are so crudded up that the extractor does not move freely.
Simple cleaning and lube fixes the problem.
Sometimes, the extractor is mis-shapen or has a burr that restricts it's movement.
Sometimes the barrel is out of alignment which causes the extractor to bind in the barrel.
All of these issues will cause problems and all are fixable without parts replacement.
Most people thinking they are fixing these problems by switching a part are ALSO cleaning out the crud and lubing the new extractor at the same time they put it in and then they incorrectly claim the new extractor fixed the gun.
I would bet that in 90-95% of cases, you could put the OLD extractor back in AFTER the clean and lube and the gun will run the same as with the new extractor.

He switched to CCI in the beginning and it was still giving him issues. But he posted a video of what he did to the rifle and all he did was replace the extractor.

Mine is brand spanking new so I don't see how cleaning it would fix it. Literally out of the box. My HK416-22 did not jam once straight out of the box.

[AR22]

Hate to say this but I will.. I would get rid of the SW and build an actual "real" one with a CMMG Bolt, from PSA, or RTB.. For people who own the SW and have never known how nice and ultra reliable a AR in the .22 platform can be..Are missing out by buying the SW.. Mine runs 100% reliable on any ammo I put in it, and I use only a dry lube in it if I think I really need to..

I know it is a little more money to do it right the first time.. But you know the old saying..Buy once, only cry once.. And you can have a non plastic Rifle then also.. I have found the only useful thing about a SW is the magazines.. they did get that part right.. Sorry it may sound harsh.. But the criticisms I have for the SW is well deserved from my experiences....

[k1dude]

I have several .22 AR's built from uppers purchased from PSA, Nordic Components, and ..... can't remember offhand who made the other 2, but they were good makes. I also have a S&W 15/22.

The plastic S&W is far and away the most reliable and the most fun. Everyone wants to shoot it much more than the others when I bring all of them out.

[foothillman]

^^^^^^^
What I like is the weight.
Just heavy enough it does not feel like a toy.
Have not had any issues from day one.
Only added Scope, Grip and Stock from MagPul.
Everyone who shoots it always has a big smile after.
Not to mention money still in the wallet.





With the big brother.
Borderline if I want to use cantilever mount since I like having stock fully extended.

[BigPun762]

^^^^^^^
What I like is the weight.
Just heavy enough it does not feel like a toy.
Have not had any issues from day one.
Only added Scope, Grip and Stock from MagPul.
Everyone who shoots it always has a big smile after.
Not to mention money still in the wallet.





With the big brother.
Borderline if I want to use cantilever mount since I like having stock fully extended.

Oh I agree. I absolutely love the weight and profile of it.

I am just hoping to work out the issues with this little plinker. I took some footage. I only got one flawless 10 round mag through it.

[Zenderfall]

I would get rid of the SW and build an actual "real" one with a CMMG Bolt, from PSA, or RTB.. For people who own the SW and have never known how nice and ultra reliable a AR in the .22 platform can be..Are missing out by buying the SW.. Mine runs 100% reliable on any ammo I put in it, and I use only a dry lube in it if I think I really need to..

I know it is a little more money to do it right the first time.. But you know the old saying..Buy once, only cry once.. And you can have a non plastic Rifle then also.. I have found the only useful thing about a SW is the magazines.. they did get that part right..

I have those "real" ones, one is built on the CMMG/Ciener system, and the other on the Nordic/JP/BCA. 15-22 has all of these beat for Last Round Bolt Hold Open, or LRBHO. Yes, it is very possible to get that functionality with special parts (namely, AR-Catch22, Boonie Packer, shims, etc) and of course, 15-22 magazines, which the S&W rifle already comes with.

So without any building, you can get a ready-to-shoot rifle with LRBHO and decent mags to boot. Or, tinker with parts and build up an AR-22. All the above rifles work well with quality high-velocity ammo, like CCI AR or CCI Minimags, or what I like to shoot, Eley Force.

Not everyone wants to get into building, and a lot of people like LRBHO. So yes, (mostly plastic) 15-22, and Tippmann Arms .22 AR are pretty good guns out of the box. They function just fine and the accuracy’s good enough for what they cost, which is not that much considering.