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  • #31
    NATEWA
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2012
    • 5977

    Adjustable stock, bx trigger, vortex rimfire scope, bipod, tri mag adapter and extended mag release (not sure if they make one for bolt hold open) have worked for me and new shooters.

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    • #32
      Peahi2
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 818

      Since you are already buying from Kidd, why not add the Kidd trigger...its literally one of the best triggers out there amongst any gun triggers lol. Definitely beats the pants off my fancy Geissele AR triggers. I like their two stage triggers. Pure money, just select the weights. Pure money.

      Hell, Kidd everything and you can't go wrong. Or next rifle, just get a Kidd complete rifle.

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      • #33
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57157

        Originally posted by M76
        BTW aftermarket barrels require light sanding to fit the receiver
        I don't recommend sanding anything when the barrel won't simply slip into the receiver.
        The best solution is to expand the receiver temporarily while you slip the barrel in and then shrink it to a nice tight fit on the barrel afterwards.
        This is done with heat.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #34
          Teachu2
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 835

          I built two of these for the wife and I to use as walking guns and loaners for visitors. The grandkids really like them, and they fit everyone. Stock Ruger receivers and bolts, Blackhawk Axiom stocks, Kidd Trigger Job kits, Kidd ULW barrels, Nikon ProStaff 3-9 Rimfire scopes with adjustable objectives, Weaver bases and rings. They weigh right at 5 lbs each, and are much more accurate than expected - the squirrels hate 'em!
          or new shooters, especially kids, I strongly favor a scoped rifle. It gives the new shooter instant feedback and encouragement when they can see the hits. Lots more fun, too, with a semi-auto. If they are shooting too fast, control the amount of ammo you give them at a time.
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          • #35
            DB>
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2017
            • 826

            A couple hints - 10/22's are like potato chips - it's hard to just do one... So if you've got several "kids" in the mix, you might consider building a couple?

            Since FFL's can charge pretty much whatever they want for "firearms" (which the receiver is...) shipped in from out of state, CALL AROUND to find one that is the most reasonable, and consider that picking up a couple (or more) receivers - you should be able to get at least some FFL's who will combine any costs (+$10 per receiver and whatever their "base" charge is).

            I'd say go with the basic/no rail receiver, esp. at the current $80 sale price, you can add whatever Pic rail or riser or whatever more easily and economically via the standard mounting holes. Brownells used to offer a "takedown" model, not sure if they still do, but a Magpul Backpacker build is nice and a bit more expensive due to the takedown hardware. The small gap in between the stock and fore end is pretty much unnoticeable.

            The higher end aftermarket barrels are all DESIGNED a little oversized, and all suggest careful sanding to fit - this was on purpose because some older receivers can be a little loose. I've fitted a bunch (TacSol brand, they are under a pound in weight) with no issues, not sure if the heat fitting method would work, as the fit is intentionally "overtight".

            As far as stocks go, you need to make sure that the stock fits either the "pencil" barrel (like most stock 10/22's), or a bull barrel. Most are one or the other.

            Stocks have a LOT of options, from several bullpup types, to various options with adjustable or folding stocks, mostly with pistol grips, to your more traditional types. There's even one (AAQBD) that lets you remove the barrel with a mechanism and fold the tailstock so that it becomes a "takedown", but without the TD exclusive parts!

            A 10/22 build is good fun "project" that the kiddos can definitely participate in, so there might be more value far beyond the parts cost!

            If you wanted an AR, best to go that M&P route, but it's not going to be quite as fun and educational, aside from "training" should there be interest down the line in a AR style platform.

            There's a reason the Ruger 10/22 is so popular, so it's pretty hard to go wrong, even if it's to buy one stock off the shelf when you find a good sale... just beware that it can be a "gateway" to mods/building your own!

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            • #36
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57157

              Originally posted by DB>
              The higher end aftermarket barrels are all DESIGNED a little oversized, and all suggest careful sanding to fit - this was on purpose because some older receivers can be a little loose. I've fitted a bunch (TacSol brand, they are under a pound in weight) with no issues, not sure if the heat fitting method would work, as the fit is intentionally "overtight".
              It 100% works.
              I have put a LOT of aftermarket 10-22 barrels into all manner of receivers and never once have I needed to remove metal to make them slip in.
              Aluminum expands a LOT when heated up a few hundred degrees.

              Keeping the fit tight by using thermal expansion gives you a much tighter fit when it cools back down and that's more beneficial to accuracy for the whole life of the barrel than if you took away the tight fit by sanding on the barrel just to make it easier to fit in the one time you install the barrel.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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              • #37
                SNEAKS
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1449

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                It 100% works.
                I have put a LOT of aftermarket 10-22 barrels into all manner of receivers and never once have I needed to remove metal to make them slip in.
                Aluminum expands a LOT when heated up a few hundred degrees.

                Keeping the fit tight by using thermal expansion gives you a much tighter fit when it cools back down and that's more beneficial to accuracy for the whole life of the barrel than if you took away the tight fit by sanding on the barrel just to make it easier to fit in the one time you install the barrel.
                This man knows his stuff.

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                • #38
                  Usmc0844spare
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 1318

                  Originally posted by M76
                  BTW aftermarket barrels require light sanding to fit the receiver
                  Umm... that is a rather broad brush to paint with.... and you should NOT be sanding anything.

                  Heat up the receiver with a heat gun, liberally grease the barrel tenon, put some thought into how to mark the 2 components for timing purposes (so the extractor lines up with the notch in the barrel), and proceed confidently and quickly.

                  If your barrel is an interference fit with the receiver, rejoice, that is a GOOD thing.
                  Last edited by Usmc0844spare; 01-25-2023, 3:37 PM.

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                  • #39
                    GunHo
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1088

                    Hi OP. Just finished building a 10/22. Had to add the popular 10/22 to my collection since I've been shooting 22lr lately due to the high cost of ammo. Pieced everything together with aftermarket parts; nothing original. Ran me about $1.6k otd with the scope. Too bad I cannot easily copy and paste pictures on this forum. From my research, this price tag is considered low to medium grade for a decent 10/22 build. My recommendation would be to build. If you buy stock, you will eventually upgrade at some point with all the aftermarket parts available.

                    Keystone fluted and threaded bull barrel: $250.00
                    Tactical Innovations receiver plus FFL and tax: $300.00
                    Tactical Innovations trigger assembly: $180.00
                    Tactical Innovations bolt assembly: $115.00
                    Tactical Innovations charging handle: $35.00
                    Barrel muzzle brake: $50.00
                    Luth AR modular MCA 22 chassis: $200.00
                    V Block / Pins: $20.00
                    Scope Rings: $30.00
                    Scope 6-24X50: $300.00
                    Bipod: $50.00
                    Magazines 3 pack: $50.00

                    Total: $1,580.00
                    Last edited by GunHo; 03-16-2023, 9:05 AM.

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                    • #40
                      saki302
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 7187

                      I've played with a bunch of 10/22s, and never had to sand or turn down a barrel, or even use heat.

                      For barrels, budget you can't go wrong with green mountain. The heavy taper is supposed to be excellent. For high dollar, everyone I know likes Kidd barrels best.
                      I prefer the kidd bolt vs volquartsen. Their stuff is just well thought out and made well, IMO. Their triggers are second to none, but possibly too light for an unseasoned kid to use.
                      I tried to teach my daughter with my old anschutz 54, but she couldn't work the trigger then.
                      She went from a junky bolt gun to lever action to 10/22 now. She also prefers the stock barrel and wood.

                      For a takedown option on non takedown guns, archangel makes a neat stock which folds down and locks forwards at the wrist. The barrel becomes quick release and stows in the butt. I got one for the kids' 10/22, but my daughter just prefers the wood stock. I'm proud I think 😆

                      For a fancy target/tactical stock, check out the Gray Birch stocks. I handled one and they're pretty awesome. Would go well on a high dollar build. Or a Boyd's with adjustments.

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                      • #41
                        Bullets&Whitewalls
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 2376

                        Originally posted by M76
                        BTW aftermarket barrels require light sanding to fit the receiver
                        Heat the receiver. Never sand or remove material from a barrel to fit it.

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                        • #42
                          Bullets&Whitewalls
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 2376

                          I think the only thing nobody has mentioned is the transfer fees?

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                          • #43
                            GunHo
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 1088

                            I went with keystone fluted bull barrel from eBay. Fit super tight on the tactical innovation receiver. I did NOT sand. This is made to fit snug tight. I recommend freezing the barrel and heating up the receiver. Apply a little grease and use a rubber mallet to hammer it in.

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                            • #44
                              Capybara
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 15496

                              If your actual goal is to teach kids to shoot, you are attacking a tiny nail with a 50lb sledgehammer IMHO.

                              Stock 10/22
                              Uncle Mike's Sling Swivels
                              GI Cotton Sling
                              Tec Sights TS-100

                              That's all that's needed for Appleseed and all that's needed to teach anyone how to shoot a rifle. I have taught my own kids and a few other kids how to safely shoot and I too prefer to start them on a bolt action single shot.

                              Semi-autos are so much fun to plink with, they can have a blast, burn through a lot of ammo, but totally unnecessary for teaching them hold, aim, breathing, sight picture and trigger control. If you are disciplined with them, you can do the same with a 10/22 but the temptation to just blast away is always there with a semi auto, but not with a single shot bolt action.

                              If your motive is to spend $1k or more, building a sweet, customized 10/22 for yourself, using the justification of teaching kids to shoot to spend $$ on building a .22, go sick!
                              NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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                              • #45
                                RNE228
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 2458

                                Agree. I prefer to teach shooters and develop some marksmanship before moving to a semi-auto.

                                Personally, have taught a bunch of kids(my kids friends, Scouts mostly) with the bolt action Mossberg my dad got it the early 1950's for Christmas. It still outshoots stock 10/22's.

                                After that, just use a stock 10/22 with the addition of Tech Sights.

                                For kids, I highly recommend the 4H shooting program too.

                                Originally posted by ocabj
                                Frankly, I'd get a CZ 457 if you want to teach the kids. 10/22's are fun, but I'd rather run a bolt gun to avoid any headaches associated with semi-auto and the 10/22 in general such as misfeeds.

                                But if you have an ulterior motive of wanting a 10/22, then go for it.

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